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  our secret dating got caught...

  by trueloveneverfails94 in

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  2. relationships

  we both are 21 years old.

  we both are 21 years old.

  i am almost done with my study and working on to become one of an unbaptized publisher.

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  tornapart

  You and your girlfriend are old enough to be married without anyone's permission. She does not need her parents permission. Why on earth would she need her parents permission to either see you or hold hands with you?

  We had a couple in our congregation. They were in their 30's. She was a pioneer and he was studying (like you). They started dating. There was even a 'marking' talk from the platform about it. They were both sat in the audience while it was given. It made no difference, they carried on seeing each other. They didn't care what anyone else thought. They got married, he got baptised. They are still part of the congregation and nobody says anything anymore, they are just another couple.

  Don't let anyone else push you around or make you feel bad. It's your life and her life, no one elses. Live it how you want. As adults you don't need anyone telling you how you should live it.
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  The people are mobilizing Mr Drumpf

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  protesters shut down a trump rally.

  massive numbers of people are out in chicago and have shut his event down.

  there were scuffles inside the event.. despite his lame attempt to pretend the violence he instigates is nothing to do with him it's clear that it is as the cnn quotes during the last event showed only too well.. this doesn't happen at anyone else's events - candidates have even given up the stage to protesters, not called for them to be beaten and punched.. trump is an ugly person and this is just a small taste of what a future under his rule would be like.. shame on the gop for not kicking his ass out.

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  if this is how he stirs things up in his own rallies, I dread to think what could happen IF he becomes president.... rattling things up with another lunatic Kim Jong-un could spell disaster...
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  Did any of us ever enjoy meetings?

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a legitimate question.

  did any of us ever find real joy in being at the meetings?

  did any of us ever finish a meeting and think "i feel so enriched"?

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  Could never understand anyone who said they were uplifting, encouraging, enjoyable etc. Deep down I always guessed they were lying, even if only to themselves. I always disliked the meetings and if ever I had a headache or any other excuse to get out of it I would. My mind would be elsewhere or I would read my bible (which I did like). I nearly always fell asleep during the WT. These days if I go I find I'm more alert and interested in what's being said just to laugh inwardly at the total BS being spouted.
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  Animals were created without needing Toilet Paper ... but not Man ... Why???

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my dog and other pets do their "business" and run away and are happy.. man does not have that luxury.

  any thoughts on why animals were created with the "poop and go" capacity while man has to go through more steps?

  was this perhaps an additional issue that god added on when adam and eve sinned (such as eve having significant more birth pains)?

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  Dogs do sort of wipe their bums, just not with toilet paper... they sit on their rear ends with their back paws up round their ears and then pull themselves along your clean carpet with their front paws.... leaving a nice trail of poop behind them... and a big grin on their face....
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  Got in a bad wreck.....uuugh

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just happy to be alive....can barely move ☺.. a girl who just got her license , and a new suv....thought it might be cool to pass the person in front of her....at a curve......on a two way road!!!!!😠😠😠.

  very mad puppy.

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  Sorry to hear about your crash brandnew and I know having bikers in the family what the bike means to you ('my baby's dead', was my son's reaction after a crash)... but I'm glad you're all in one piece still even if you're hurting right now. Hope you recover soon... and your bike too!!
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  What's the point?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.

  since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.

  kaput.

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  Questioning the WT makes you question everything. Sometimes those questions have disturbing answers. I don't know what to think or believe anymore... it's like having to start all over again and when you're close to your 60's that's not easy. All I can say is it's important to enjoy the life and health you have here and now, make the most of it. We spent so much time waiting for a 'new world' that we put our lives on hold. But really life can be enjoyed right now. How about giving yourself a 'bucket list'? I think of the young guy (Stephen Sutton) who died after a few years of fighting cancer. He made a bucket list and lived life to the full right up until the day he died. We were sold eternity, now maybe all we have is now... we have to make the most of it. Life however short is a precious gift.
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  I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

  by scared and lonely in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

  i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

  i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

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  There's been some great advice given on here by quite a few posters, however I feel very disturbed by the nastiness of some. I've seen it before, someone comes on here for help, advice, support and gets called a troll because they may have put things badly, usually because of stress, emotional upset or whatever. Being nasty is never going to help doubters who are dipping their toes into apostate-land. these ones need our help and support. When someone is waking up and especially if their whole life has been immersed into it, their whole family is in it, they have no friends outside of it... its a very scary place to be,

  As it happens I have a son living at home in his late 20's, he's an MS and the kindest most caring guy you could wish to meet but I'm worried about him 'spreading his wings' because he is 'naive'. Maybe he is a 'Man-child', if such a thing exists and not because of the way he's been brought up by us because his older brothers are totally different, it's just the way he is. Academically he is very bright but socially he's not. I imagine him coming here one day and getting that same reaction.

  I just hope S&L that you stay, read, join in if you feel you want. Learn who to trust and who you can't. There are many on here who will give you the help and support you need.
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  Why the Deficit at the Circuit Assembly?

  by JT-LadyC in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have you ever wondered why there is always a deficit at the circuit assembly?

  did you realize that before the program begins, the circuit is already in the red?

  many of the friends thought they were paying for the use of the building and covering the costs of the utilities, etc.

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  This is awesome! As someone who still has family in and an elder hubby, things like this are excellent for trying to open their eyes. Thanks JT and Lady C for all your hard work and for the non-sensational and reasonable way you present everything. And JT.. even dressing like a JW is going to make those questioning things stop and listen to what you have to say!
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  ten plagues of egypt explained.

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lve been researching the ten plagues of egypt.saw a tv doco few years back explaining scientifically how they all occurred.for anybody interested simply google ten plagues of egypt explained.

  sure is worth a look.cheers.

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  I remember a documentary a few years back too. Can't remember all of it but the gist of it was that there could have been a red algal bloom in the Nile causing everything in it to die, the frogs cleared out and then they all died, no frogs caused an explosion of flies and this in turn caused pestilence., etc... It tried explaining it all in terms of natural occurrences all coinciding at the same time. Quite an interesting take on it.
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  Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.

  i wish this cult would just go away.

  i wish my wife would just wake up.

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  feel for you... same here... he's an elder so has to be on top of everything, studies the WT, book study, bible reading, goes out in FS to ALL the meetings... sometimes when he tells me things I feel like I have to have a cast iron stomach. At least he doesn't try to pressure me into anything and he hasn't watched a single broadcast yet. And he knows when I've had enough. Guess I'm lucky really. Just hoping something soon will burst his bubble... :/