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  More Self Therapy

  by Indian Larry in

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  dont push me under.

  there is nothing wrong with that.. i am concerned about my standing with god.. i am concerned about how i will answer on judgement day.. i try to be a good father.. i try to be a good son.. i try to be a good husband.. is that crazy?.

  yes, i have doubts.. the bible tells us to verify the truth.. we are encouraged to test things we are told.

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  tornapart

  Larry, you could be witing for me too... read your other stuff. So similar it's spooky!

  Have you checked out Jwstruggle.com? It's an excellent website for fading Jws, Jws with doubts and questions. A lot of support.
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  Watchtower Leadership – Believe Its Own Blood Doctrine?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  watchtower leadership believe its own blood doctrine?

  today i added a new article to my blog.

  it examines the question of whether watchtowers top leadership believes its own doctrine on blood.

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  tornapart

  And what about the deal made with the Bulgarian government?
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  Doesn't 607 prove the Bible false?

  by garbonzo in

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  2. bible

  the prophecy clearly states that the destruction of jerusuelem will be 70 years before the cast to rebuild.

  yet we know the destruction of jerusuelem was not 70 years before, it was at 586 bce, not 607 bce.

  so this here is a clear contradiction between secular evidence and the bible.. atheists = win..

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  tornapart

  Think Londo's argument is spot on.. it's not the bible that's wrong it's the WT interpretation..

  the only reason why they stick to 607BCE is so it can fit with their interpretation of 1914.. of course that is wrong too.. if it was right then they wouldn't need an overlapping generation...
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  I am going to have Acupuncture for my depression - anyone done this??

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. friends

  i spent a fortune on transactional analysis in the early 90's.

  dont regret one penny of it.. i have had a paralysing depression now for about two years.

  i cant write, dont enjoy my job anymore, and uninterested generally.recently i have even started saying "jehovah let me die" as i get into bed.. i considered going down the counselling route.

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  tornapart

  Not me but my son did.. it worked for him..
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  More anti-apostate rhetoric from the Watchtower - are they running scared?

  by cedars in

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  2. bible

  yes, the may 15th watchtower is now available for download from jw.org.. the final study article, on page 26, directs another salvo at apostates - and warns witnesses not to try arguing with them on the internet:.

  indeed, we ought to move as far away from wrongdoing as possible and not see how close we can get to it without being overcome by sin.

  for instance, we need to guard against succumbing to apostasy, a sin that would make us unfit to glorify god.

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  tornapart

  Best thing to do is just ignore the whole lot and do your own thing..... think what you want... do what you want.. and don't care what anyone else says or does...

  if you still believe God and Christ, do what they want.. if you don't then do what you want... take no notice of what anyone else says...
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  Which Beliefs and Doctrines Helped Push You Out?

  by ilikecheese in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, so this is my first post, but i've been lurking here for months and months.

  i have to say this is a very informative and hilarious site.

  you guys are great to read!

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  tornapart

  For me it was the 'overlapping generation'.. followed by 607.. followed by 1914.. followed by 1919 and the FDS.. followed GB worship.. and like Cedars said, the rest just comes tumbling down...
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  TONS & TONS OF HISTORICAL JW PUBLICATIONS!!! A MUST SEE!!

  by Lady Liberty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my dad showed me this site he stumbled across the other day, and i thought i would share it with all of you!

  you will be amazed at what is here!!

  clear back to the very first publications!!

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  tornapart

  Great find! Thanks LL :D
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  jwfacts.com

  by allyouneedislove in

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  2. bible

  i had a few comments to make regarding paul grundy's jwfact.com website.

  these comments are in no way meant to defend jws, but only to point out illogical statements.

  i have actually found his website to be quite informative.. .

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  tornapart

  The problem with this is, those peope believed that if they bought the party card they were against God. It wasn't a case of being disfellowshipped. Their eternal life was at stake! If you were told that you would be destroyed for eternity, that God would punish you for it and not forgive you.. and you believed it was true.. what would you do?
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  Awake! April 2012 - cover

  by processor in

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  2. beliefs

  the cover is showing a happy family on a weekend trip.

  i corrected the title according to the watchtower doctrine.. .

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  And what's with the table cloth on a picnic bench?
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  1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

  by leavingwt in

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  98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

  below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

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  tornapart

  Interesting point Yknot... I think that greed will come into it somewhere. All this property in Brooklyn being sold up and them getting involved with Hedge funds. What if they make some dodgy investments, in the financial climate atm it could all come crashing down and the whole lot finished overnight..then where will all the R&F be without their leaders, printing works etc...