Take her to Rome and see the Vatican.... (Rome's a fantastic city)
tornapart
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JW MECCA!!!! ANY THOUGHTS?!?!
by DATA-DOG inso...the wife wants to go to new york.
she wants to visit the holy land and see the new bible museum.
( sorry, trying not to vomit..) do you have any idea what it costs to fly to ny and get a room?
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Who are doing Jehovah's will today? Brochure
by KateWild inthis brochure is being studied, in the org starting form this week.
it rams lies down our throats, trying to convince us the the wt is god's organisation.
it lies to us about how the wt is doing jehovah's will.. we are going to be subjected to lies, lies and more lies for weeks.
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tornapart
It's good to a mind controlled JW
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Who are doing Jehovah's will today? Brochure
by KateWild inthis brochure is being studied, in the org starting form this week.
it rams lies down our throats, trying to convince us the the wt is god's organisation.
it lies to us about how the wt is doing jehovah's will.. we are going to be subjected to lies, lies and more lies for weeks.
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tornapart
I don't go mid week at all now. I don't go Sundays if the WT is loaded. It just means the times I do go I can just about cope with.
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For the ones who believe in Bible - What does the scriptures here imply on subjection to religious leaders? - Hebrews 13:17-19, 22-25
by MissConfused indo we really need an organization and need to be in subjection to it as god always chose leaders (abhraham, moses, jesus, apostles)?
what are your thoughts?
how can you reason this out?.
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tornapart
SFPW, it is not Unity.. it is Conformity. There's a difference. Look up Groupthink in Wikipedia. George Orwell uses it quite nicely in his novel 1984.
And when did the 1stC christians have to put in a field service report? They never had to 'report back' to anyone, they were all over the place yet look how they accomplished it!
Today there are over 1,000,000 christians in China without any kind of 'organisation'. They meet in 'house churches' much the same as 1stC christians did.
Also, you have taken 1 Cor 14:33 out of context. There is nothing wrong with being organised to accomplish something. Where it becomes wrong is when IT becomes an ORGANISATION that controls people.
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JWN site question?
by mind blown inquestion?.
on some threads the "post reply" box is missing the section where you can post links, photos, emotcions, etc.. is this a new thing to save band width or is it a glitch?.
i miss having the old "post reply" options....:(.
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tornapart
Sometimes I get the glitch and sometimes I don't... atm, it's ok...
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Looks like Jan 2014 WT missed some dates in this paragraph...anyone want to fill in some dates the GB missed out?
by KateWild in12 since the establishment of the kingdom in 1914, the king has refined the way gods servants are organized to do his fathers will.
(read isaiah 60:17.
) in 1919, a service director was appointed in each congregation to take the lead in the preaching work.
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tornapart
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How to prove God does not exist?
by UBM101 inmany times (almost all the time) atheists asking for proof of god's existence from those who believe that god exists.
perhaps at times they should prove he doesn't exist.
any taker?
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tornapart
Quote from C S Lewis... an atheist who bacame a christian.
" My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if i did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning."
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What are the buzz words or trigger for JWs?
by UBM101 ini read steve hassan's book and he mentioned about buzz words or triggers that call out the cult personality of a victim of mind controlling cult.
when you were in, what triggered you?.
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tornapart
Apostate..... apostate literature... apostate website.... apostate ideas... etc.
(not so much me, I was always intrigued but I've seen it in family & friends).
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Anyone know of any witnesses that concealed carry to meetings?
by LogCon indoes anyone know of any witnesses, in good standing, brother or sisters, that used to conceal carry to meetings or field service?.
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tornapart
It's illegal to carry a knife or a gun in the UK. You can get up to 5 years in jail if you do and you're caught with one.
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Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?
by hoser incan a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.
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tornapart
I asked a few months ago to come off... after 45 years of giving talks. It was just accepted with no questions asked and no one has said anything ever since. I'm still considered in good standing. If only they knew LOL