Posts by tornapart

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The murmuring phase is the beginning of an ex-JWs progression towards fading.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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i suppose part of the fascination i have with this board is, the exotic nature of those making up the member population.

i say exotic because, as you yourselves will agree with, folks such as yourselves don't hang around the christian congregation for long upon making the decision that truth is not for you.

(rom 1:25) this "fading" thing spoken of here likely plays a role into why christians such as me find the average ex-jw to be a bit fascinating.

tornapart

The rejection of Jesus Christ as mediator to me is enough for me to go.

You mention Korah and his followers.. always used by the society as saying we are going against God because we go against his organisation.

But let me ask you... who is the Greater Moses? It is JESUS CHRIST! (Heb 3:1-6) To me this means that they are putting themselves in the place of Jesus. They have now become our mediator.

For me, this has got nothing to do with letting Satan in. But everything to do with seeing the way they have demoted the Son of God!!

I cannot follow a group of men who have changed the gospel and turned themselves into an idol. I would rather obey God than a bunch of men!

Oh.. and BTW... my username..... that is how I felt on discovering the REAL TRUTH! Fading is a nightmare. It hurts... badly. But I do it for my Lord and Master JESUS CHRIST!

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Vinyl words printed for back of my car should say??

by RayPublisher in

so let's say i've thought about having some vinyl lettering printed up and stuck on the back windshield of the car to publicize ttatt...what should it say?.

"do you know ttatt?".

"jehovah's witnesses are a cult that breaks up families".

tornapart

I like the Ex JW on board. Thankyou Jesus! (nothing worse for a JW than thanking Jesus LOL)

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JW MECCA!!!! ANY THOUGHTS?!?!

by DATA-DOG in

so...the wife wants to go to new york.

she wants to visit the holy land and see the new bible museum.

( sorry, trying not to vomit..) do you have any idea what it costs to fly to ny and get a room?

tornapart

Take her to Rome and see the Vatican.... (Rome's a fantastic city)

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Who are doing Jehovah's will today? Brochure

by KateWild in

this brochure is being studied, in the org starting form this week.

it rams lies down our throats, trying to convince us the the wt is god's organisation.

it lies to us about how the wt is doing jehovah's will.. we are going to be subjected to lies, lies and more lies for weeks.

Who are doing Jehovah's will today? Brochure

by KateWild in

this brochure is being studied, in the org starting form this week.

it rams lies down our throats, trying to convince us the the wt is god's organisation.

it lies to us about how the wt is doing jehovah's will.. we are going to be subjected to lies, lies and more lies for weeks.

tornapart

I don't go mid week at all now. I don't go Sundays if the WT is loaded. It just means the times I do go I can just about cope with.

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For the ones who believe in Bible - What does the scriptures here imply on subjection to religious leaders? - Hebrews 13:17-19, 22-25

by MissConfused in

do we really need an organization and need to be in subjection to it as god always chose leaders (abhraham, moses, jesus, apostles)?

what are your thoughts?

how can you reason this out?.

tornapart

SFPW, it is not Unity.. it is Conformity. There's a difference. Look up Groupthink in Wikipedia. George Orwell uses it quite nicely in his novel 1984.

And when did the 1stC christians have to put in a field service report? They never had to 'report back' to anyone, they were all over the place yet look how they accomplished it!

Today there are over 1,000,000 christians in China without any kind of 'organisation'. They meet in 'house churches' much the same as 1stC christians did.

Also, you have taken 1 Cor 14:33 out of context. There is nothing wrong with being organised to accomplish something. Where it becomes wrong is when IT becomes an ORGANISATION that controls people.

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JWN site question?

by mind blown in

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question?.

on some threads the "post reply" box is missing the section where you can post links, photos, emotcions, etc.. is this a new thing to save band width or is it a glitch?.

i miss having the old "post reply" options....:(.

tornapart

Sometimes I get the glitch and sometimes I don't... atm, it's ok...

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Looks like Jan 2014 WT missed some dates in this paragraph...anyone want to fill in some dates the GB missed out?

by KateWild in

12 since the establishment of the kingdom in 1914, the king has refined the way gods servants are organized to do his fathers will.

(read isaiah 60:17.

) in 1919, a service director was appointed in each congregation to take the lead in the preaching work.

How to prove God does not exist?

by UBM101 in

many times (almost all the time) atheists asking for proof of god's existence from those who believe that god exists.

perhaps at times they should prove he doesn't exist.

any taker?

tornapart

Quote from C S Lewis... an atheist who bacame a christian.

" My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if i did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning."

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What are the buzz words or trigger for JWs?

by UBM101 in

i read steve hassan's book and he mentioned about buzz words or triggers that call out the cult personality of a victim of mind controlling cult.

when you were in, what triggered you?.

tornapart

Apostate..... apostate literature... apostate website.... apostate ideas... etc.

(not so much me, I was always intrigued but I've seen it in family & friends).