I read that article earlier today Cofty and found it really upsetting. He seemed such a well liked and friendly guy and ready to integrate into a community of all faiths and persuasions, he loved the country he was living in. These extremists just can't bear it, they want to spew their evil ideology over everyone and anyone not following their path deserves to be murdered. Sick!!
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Muslim Shopkeeper Murdered for Wishing Friends a Happy Easter on Twitter
by cofty inhorrible crime in glasgow on thursday evening when a well loved muslim shop keeper asad shah was stabbed to death by at least one other muslim man.
mohammad faisal, a family friend, said a bearded muslim wearing a long religious robe entered mr shah’s shop and spoke to him in his native language before stabbing him in the head with a kitchen knife.. mr shah had posted the twitter message ‘good friday and a very happy easter, especially to my beloved christian nation’.
residents of shawlands in glasgow say he was well respected and had been known to hand out christmas cards to neighbours despite being of a different faith.. hundreds have turned out in a vigil near the crime scene....
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My jw friend keeps preaching to me in e-mails
by Queenme indear friends this is my first time posting.
i am not a jw and have never been one but i have a friend who married a jw and converted.
in spite of the bunk barometer going off in my brain over the years and never responding to her efforts to convert me, she just cannot stop preaching.
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tornapart
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Status update and hello.
by Darkknight757 ini haven't posted here in a few months and to be honest i haven't been lurking either.
i hope everyone is doing well.😊 i wanted to take a minute to let you know how things have been the last few months.. recently the brothers decided to finally consider my letter of resignation.
they met with me alone and i let them know why i have become inactive as a publisher and why i no longer wish to serve as an elder in the congregation.
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tornapart
So sorry for your loss Darknight. I've been through that myself too, many years ago and you're right, it's not something you ever 'get over'. The pain of losing a child is unlike any other kind of pain and the grieving process takes a long time. I suffered with depression two years later and was told it was 'delayed' grief as I'd seemed to cope quite well at the time, went on and had another child and then 'Bam!' it hit me like a brick. Other people can't fully understand unless they've been through it. Especially as they may never have even seen your child as a baby. I really hope you and your wife find some way of coping with your grief. My heart truly goes out to you both. -
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Will the Borg ever do what the WCG did?
by tornapart inwhilst not endorsing any of the beliefs or doctrines of this group i found it really interesting that once herbert armstrong died it had a major overhaul of it's beliefs and practices (very similar in a cultish way to jws).
apologising for it's errors and putting things right.
it became less judgemental, more encompassing of other christian faiths.
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Will the Borg ever do what the WCG did?
by tornapart inwhilst not endorsing any of the beliefs or doctrines of this group i found it really interesting that once herbert armstrong died it had a major overhaul of it's beliefs and practices (very similar in a cultish way to jws).
apologising for it's errors and putting things right.
it became less judgemental, more encompassing of other christian faiths.
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tornapart
Whilst not endorsing any of the beliefs or doctrines of this group I found it really interesting that once Herbert Armstrong died it had a major overhaul of it's beliefs and practices (very similar in a cultish way to JWs). Apologising for it's errors and putting things right. It became less judgemental, more encompassing of other christian faiths. Putting more emphasis on love and forgiveness than obeying rules. Dumping all the millenialist stuff and in the process losing thousands of members. Now it's more mainstream christianity. It just got me to wondering, what if this happened to the WT? Only trouble is, the WT seems to be getting more hardline and delusional every year.
Anyway, if anyone wants to read the article it's here
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In regards to memorial, what I am going to do
by Truth and Justice inwow!
what a list of new friends we have on this forum, i don't know if i'll ever be able to keep up, but that's ok.. i wanted to dive in to the post to talk about the memorial.
i do not have any intentions of going, even if i was invited.
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tornapart
With family still in, I feel I have to attend but watching the bread and wine being passed round feels to me like a rejection. 'Thanks Jesus, but not for me!' My thoughts are that all christians should partake. There is nowhere in the scriptures that say there are two types of christian and one type partakes and the other doesn't. So I partake privately on my own. It feels the right thing to do. -
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Is this a site controlled by atheists?
by The Rebel inunder the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.
i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.
my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?
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I've been a member of this site for 4 years now and whilst I've noticed there are a lot of atheists there are also many theists too. I would take a guess though that the vast majority are now agnostic and just want to get on and have a happy enjoyable life without being bothered by anything to do with religion.
I do think it's a shame though when someone new comes here still expressing a faith in God and being lambasted for it (unless of course they are trolling). I don't see it happen often but occasionally it does. As my username denotes, that is how I felt when I discovered TTATT. Having my faith in God challenged at the outset would have been something I couldn't have handled at the time. It's a long slow process for many to challenge dearly held beliefs for so long. It's important to be as welcoming as possible to newcomers and not bombard them with atheism at the outset.
Nice post Rebel
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Lost on how to respond...
by babygirl30 inso an old friend of mine from the congregation hit me up today.
the story goes like this when we were jw's:.
- this guy used to be madly in love with me but i didn't see him as anything more than a friend.
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tornapart
You could tell him that after 3 years you weren't expecting to hear from him. You hope he is well and you remember him with fondness (as a friend). Say that you know Jehovah has forgiven you (if indeed you did anything that needed forgiveness) and you are very happy in the place you now find yourself. You appreciate his concern but you won't be coming back, you have made a new life for yourself and being a Jehovah's Witness is no longer a part of it. Wish him well in his life and say goodbye. -
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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists
by cofty ini thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
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tornapart
Ok Cofty, I'm going to bite the bullet. LOL
I'm not going to answer your questions one by one because I'm not clever enough but the evidence is clearly there for evolution. I still believe though in an ultimate creator at the start of it all. Basically I believe he set the ball rolling and then let nature take its course. I'm not expecting anyone else to concur, that's just my own personal take on it.
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Is Reading/Writing about Mythologies bad?
by Messhy inas the topic title says, is reading/writing about mythologies bad?
i read alot of mythologies and enjoy it.
should i stop?.
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tornapart
As a JW child I always loved to read mythologies, especially the Roman and Greek. I also used to love fairy stories. (My mum never knew, I just picked them up from the library). Guess I used to read the bible the same way. To me the stories in the bible seemed the same. Yet I used to believe they were all true, that the mythological stories were something to do with pre-flood times. I think maybe some stories were based on real events but exaggerated until they became unreal and more to do with someone's imagination like a sci-fi story. Whatever they are, they're fun to read.