Posts by tornapart

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I need food for thought..

by raven in

hi friends,it has been 20 years that i've slaved for the wt and through out the past couple of years i could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right.

i fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality i was not spiritual because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things they want you to do.

which then will label you as spiritual... no !!!

tornapart

Hi raven... I would endorse what oppostate said about reading Ray Franz book 'In Search of Christian Freedom'. I've also read books by Philip Yancy, a christian writer who became atheist for a time after coming from a fundamentalist church. He found his own spiritual freedom. I've also read a book about buddhism and how it's values can be drawn on by a christian (the writer is christian himself but married to a buddhist). Also, read the New Testament in other translations like the NIV, without referring to any other publications. It's amazing the difference it makes.

Also, just going out and enjoying the nature is a very spiritual experience whether one is a believer in God or not.

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Drifting what i've feared has started already...

by pale.emperor in

im in the process of drifting out.

my entire family are jw's.

my wife and her family are too.

tornapart

Same here Pale emperor. I've been fading for a few years now and only just recently became inactive. Hubby's an elder. However, I don't feel I owe anybody an explanation as to why I don't do certain things. If I'm asked for my report I just say I haven't got one. If I'm asked why I don't go to the meetings I just say I don't want to. It's a free country, I'm a free human being with free choices that God gave me. No one can make do anything I no longer want to do. I haven't lost my family, possibly because I've taken it slowly and they can see where I'm coming from, even if they don't agree with me. All it takes is to be quietly assertive.

Also, whatever you do, don't accept a shepherding visit. Say you'd rather not talk to anyone. No explanations, just say no thanks.

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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

by apocalypse in

i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

this is huge.

tornapart

Just don't sign it... END OF!

I don't see what the issue is. I'm inactive now, don't go to many meetings. There's no way I will sign this document. If they ask me I'm just going to tell them I don't want to sign it. I'm a grown woman.. nobody can make me.

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Very Weird Experience During Recent Special Talk After Memorial

by Tenacious in

hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.

whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.

he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.

tornapart

Love that tenacious... it reminds me of a poster on here several years (name of little toe) ago who gave a talk and made the whole thing point to Jesus. At the end he handed in his resignation (from the platform). It has been recorded for posterity. It's well worth finding and listening to if you can!

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Last night's talk re sisters wearing head covering, puke making!

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

dear sisters,.

when you are fortunate enough to be in the presence of a jw penis you must take care to show the proper respect for it!

doesn't matter if said penis is prepubescent!

tornapart

Where's Outlaw with his images? :D

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Are You Raising An Introvert?

by darth frosty in

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friends

its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

tornapart

darth frosty, I love this thread, thanks for starting it! I find my introversion is getting worse the older I get. It's very hard being an introvert, especially in Jdub land when everyone wants you to do extrovert stuff (like knock on strangers doors and going to assemblies). It's so refreshing not to have to do all those things now, that go against my natural personality. Everything you've posted on here I can relate to. Wonder how many on this board are introverts? I reckon the percentage could be quite high.

Anyway.. great thread!!

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New K.Hall Design, Mansfield

by BluesBrother in

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friends

not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?

in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!

this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.

tornapart

Seems to me like they all want to say what they REALLY think... it's horrid, it's ugly, can't believe anybody designed this, it looks like a factory, it looks like a warehouse'.... but they're all afraid to say it. Anyone who dares say it, covers it with a 'oh but I'm sure it'll look lovely when it's finished, jehovah's behind it all so let's support the organisation'. At least one had enough guts to stick the Walmart sign on... lol

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

tornapart

Alternative to JWs...

Not having to get up on a Sunday morning and sitting for two hours getting bored but rather, having a nice lie-in.

Not having to get up on a Saturday to knock on the doors of people I don't know or standing bored out of my mind next to a trolley, Rather going out for the day and having fun.

Not having to rush around like a headless chicken, making sure the dinner is ready on time and I'm ready for the midweek meeting and sitting for two hours getting bored again. Rather relaxing in front of the TV with a nice glass of wine.

Not having to go to endless assemblies. Rather I can have another fun weekend.

To sum up... what is the alternative to JWs? Having fun and enjoying life!!!

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organization obsesion

by Richard C B in

why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

there has to be order in the world and organised people!

tornapart

JWs are obsessed with THE organisation.... JW.org is everywhere

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organization obsesion

by Richard C B in

why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

there has to be order in the world and organised people!