wow wow wow! this one is a biggie say goodbye to 1914 and move up all the big stuff to an unkown future time - ie: the great tribulation! I suppose this is kind of like how the "friends" back in 1929 must have felt when all the big stuff (1799, 1874) got moved up to 1914 thus delaying the end. Now all that big stuff has been moved up to the yet future great tribulation. Even better, when the disgusting thing DOES stand in a holy place, there is still a "period of time", yes another delay! but at that time we will experience all the joy of call rude people at the doors "goats" like we did back in the day. So I guess the new great tribulation is the "new" 1914 for the millenial F&DS. I mean, we can't have all the good stuff apply to those old boys back in 1914 and us "new boys" get none of the attention can we? As soon as the GB decides to point to an "event" and call it the "disgusting thing" then WHAM! SEE! WE SAID IT! JUST LIKE 1914! Then all the young'ens will be all fired up with the end soooo close and the WTS predicting the great tribulation the same way they predicted 1914 and the united nations. I wonder if 2014 will be the year of the disgusin thing????
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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..
by confusedteenager innot sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.
they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.
of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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Cedars, Lady lee, Barbara et al
thank you so much for your hard work. I appreciate all the hard work the Randy Watters, Simon, and all of you at AWAA put into your efforts against the WTS.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING ALL OF OUR VOICES A BIT LOUDER !!! :)
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BROTHERS & SISTERS - READ THE BROCHURE!
by The Searcher injesus always used illustrations to help people reason on the import of what he was saying.
here is an illustration followed by a reality;.
imagine that your heart went out to all those poor people who suffered when fukushima blew up, so much so, that when an internationally renowned charity asked for donations to help those in need, you donated $5000 to the cause.
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even as a die-hard believer I always wondered how an assembly was so expensive. Especailly after the food service stopped.
I learned about all the other expenses wrapped up in the assembly: the CO & DO expenses, their vehicles, gas, travel, food, accomodations, everything! Even after all that I still thought it was so high for 1 or 2 days.
Then I learned about the WTS charging rent. RENT? plus we cleaned it and maintained it and paid for it? WTF? Then on top of that the "pre-determined donation" to the WTS being included in the totals as an "expense"? Very fraudulent as far as I am concerned. I never understood how much of a business the WTS was until I grasped this
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C.O. Reports: JWs/WTS "Reach Critical Mass...
by BitterTruth injehovah's witnesses/wts have reached "critical mass" - says ex-circuit overseer.
------posting copied from h2o-----.
posted by xelder [seeker4] on july 13, 2000 at 12:00:52 {rn3hpwrs1eubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.
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look how much HAS happened though since this orignal post
generation - twice!
1935 closing of the call - gone
Jesus "arrival" now in great tribulation, not 1918
book study - gone
F&DS = Governing body
domestics = anointed AND other sheep
the ten toes cahnged again
the mustard seed, the dragnet, etc. changed again (i can't even remember how...)
majority of brooklyn heights sold
California pedophile settlement $16+million
Candace Conti
JW's told the F&DS does not endorse any media content not under the direction of the WTS
R&F all got really detailed blood fraction cards with check boxes for how what types of blood fractions they will conscienciously take
JW.org is huge now, JW's are pumping the website like the internet is brand new! JW's taking iPads out in service right to the door
and how many things have I forgotten?
If all of this stuff happened all at once JW's would have been falling flat on their faces!
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The conflicting tracks about the anointed
by Pistoff ini was gobsmacked to hear wife tell me this:.
she said the co's wife in her mother's hall is anointed.. my mil asked the co's wife why she thought that the number of anointed are going up.. the answer will make you think, and might make you a bit angry.. the co's wife said:.
well, 'they' looked around and realized we need more anointed, not less, as they are the ones who take the lead (ie, the fds).. i trust the source for this information implicitly; i believe it.. .
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Blondie - great articles!
but was there not a WT about 15 years ago that discussed if other sheep should pray for holy spirit? I recall the article basically implied that other sheep can pray for holy spirit but this is more of a symbol of their appreciation of Jehovah's holy spirit acting upon the anointed.
I am certain I remember this article that only anointed get holy spirit. Or am I crazy?
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If Jesus arrived in Kingdom Power in 1914....is he a lame-duck savior?
by Big Mama ininteresting scripture at 1 cor.
11:14 " for as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the lord, until he arrives.
" the teaching and belief of jehovah's witnesses is that jesus took kingdom power in the heavens in 1914 at the same time throwing satan out and down to the vicinity of the earth.
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any insight on this when compared to 1 Thess 4:13-17?
13 Moreover, brothers, we do not want YOU to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping+ [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.+14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again,+ so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him.+ 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s* word,+ that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord*+ shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord* himself will descend from heaven+ with a commanding call, with an archangel’s+ voice and with God’s trumpet,+ and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.+ 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving* will, together* with them,+ be caught away+ in clouds+ to meet+ the Lord* in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord.*+ 18Consequently keep comforting one another with these words.
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How do I tell my husband?
by dissonance_resolved ini'm a born in, baptized as a young teenager, whole family is jw.
i just recently woke up after the new understanding of the fds was announced and it seemed to me to smack of power-grabbing.
i started looking at all the websites we're not supposed to, and now i know why.
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Oy, this is not going to be easy. We went out to dinner tonight, and he could read me like a book and knew something was wrong. I tried to keep it nonchalant but it didn't end well. Now we have a renewed commitment to be regular at meetings and FS. Sigh.
UGH!!!!
This is SO TYPICAL!
"If your doubting you MUST be weak and we are going to "do better" in the truth from now on"
what kind of thinker is your husband? does he watch documentaries and science shows or is he all about Seinfeld and 2-1/2 men?
If he's a science documentary kind of guy then ask him about dinosaurs. If the flood pushed up all the mountains then how did Noah even recognize that he was on Mt. Aararat? How would he have recognized anything about he was?
If the flood killed the dinosaurs then every fossil ever found existed only 4000 years ago. Why did Noah not save 2 of every dinosaur? Why are they not even mentioned in scripture? Why did Jehovah create giant flesh eating monsters when all life lived in the perfect garden of eden?
Why is it we can extract good DNA from animals and humans that have been dead for 4000 years but dino DNA is all fragmented and decayed? DNA is supposed to be good up to 100,000 years before its decayed. Why are only dino's affected by this and not 4000 year old mummies and other animals?
Why do so many people say that 607 BCE is not the destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon when the Society KNOWS it IS 607?
Sometimes these simple questions start the ball rolling. Don't expound these, just ask the question and change the subject.
If he is a Seinfeld / 2-1/2 men kind of guy then when you find somehting that works can you tell me???
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Seven Thousand Year Creative Day still being taught (as of 2005)
by VM44 inhere is a photo of a gilead instructor (br.
liverance) teaching a class on chronology.. the photo appears in a blog entry dated 5-21-2005.. note the "6,000" and "1,000" periods in the timeline drawn on the whiteboard.. i thought the 7,000 year creative day was no longer taught, but apparently it still is at gilead, at least in the year 2005.. (picture cannot be embedded here for some reason, so here is the link to it).
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ydnht0xya-4/sbukuolyzei/aaaaaaaaacs/t-rgxaammbg/s1600-h/chronology+%28br.+liverance%29.jpg.
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The universe.. are you ready for reality?
by cyberjesus init couldnt get any easier... or could it?.
http://youtu.be/0nbbjniw4tk.
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i love this stuff
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Are financial transactions being performed at the local Kingdom Halls?
by I_love_Jeff inis this not inappropriate behavior in the eyes of jah?
surely it must.. .
http://savedfromthewatchtower.blogspot.com/2011_09_01_archive.html.
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anyone handling these machines for business knows that a fee can be charged to the customer which goes to the business itself. This small 15 cent (or so) fee is usually just accepted and on goes the transaction.
I am sure the WTS has somehow used this to its advantage