Never
its not about reaching people, its about keeping the members busy.
well... not yet (it was just a thing that was bugging my brains today).
do you remember as a child or teenager that every time we preached and asked when it would stop the answer would be: "till jehovah tells us it is no longer necessary"?.
the amount of literature is dropped... there are no old bibles... they sell all kind of keylocations all across the globe etc etc etc ... all money is getting centered to one spot one way or another.. also... if shit is gonna happen worldwide (maybe a "normal" world war or something) it is actually not a strange thought that one day soon they may announce something like the following:.
Never
its not about reaching people, its about keeping the members busy.
there has to be atleast one elder here who was given the annual meeting recording, unless it's in some sealed box where every elder in the congregation has 1 key and all must open it at once, assuring nobody opened it prior to the day.
but if not, if one of you has it, be a boss and upload it already.
how funny if the whole thing was online 2 days prior.
I am surprised its not pre-recorded to be honest. What if one of the GB pulled a "Ray Franz" up there? Or a 1976 Gilead Freddie Franz?
- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.
- new bible.
- new nwt (revision).
I wouldn't put it past them to weasel in some language that strengthens their interpretations. This option is obviously more risky, but might have a bigger pay off in getting all these idiots excited.
actually now that I think about it, if they introduce a new NWT, this would be a HUGE deal to many JW's that are riding the fence. Their is so much history now with the NWT that the majority of R&F would never accept criticism.
however, if they print a new bible it may cause enough curiosity and open a door for many to hear criticism in a different light.
I am starting to doubt a new NWT. This to me will cause thousands to question the new consolidated leadership.
Imagine if you got baptized and then left "the truth" how she would treat you?
you made a very mature decision
you are much wiser than I was.
stick around. Many of us can empathize. Nice to meet you'
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!
i spoke with some one that recommends i step lightly for he said the tower may use there attorneys to attack me recommend to my wife to leave me (spiritual endangerment) and use their attorney's to then help her get complete custody of the kids.
has anyone heard of these guys doing this?
i don't doubt this guy former elder and bethelite and all, just wondering if any one here has experienced this or knows of this happening?
it may appear like that has happened but as others have said, the WTS lawyers would not be involved to actually represent anyone.
I don't beleive they would "recommend" per se to leave you but they would make it know that "spiritual endangerment" is scriptural justification for separation. (she would not however be free to marry)
I do believe that the WTS legal could advise the cong. elders who would then advise the JW spouse how to best proceed
members of the local cong. may also come in droves to certain court hearings to villainize you and pump sunshine up your wifes ass to the judge.
I have SEEN this happen. From an observers perspective, this may appear to be as you described in your post. In reality, your wife would obtain her own legal counsel and file for legal separation with the support of the elders and the congregation. With all that support she will have the strength and resources to wage war. She will also have a vast array of character references.
I would also suspect someone she knows would have means to access personal information about you that she could use against you. I have seen this too.
As for custody, the mother is typically favored by the courts. On top of that she'll have dozens of JW's providing character references making her appear as the perfect mother, and you as a dead beat father that "confuses" the children.
They can't just say "he's not a JW anymore" so they cloake this in phraseology about the children being confused, or you not being "stable".
The only thing is to prime your kids for WANTING to be with you.
Remember, lots of JW's are going to be conditioning your kids to "stick with Jehovah", this means "stay with your mom", you need to teach your kids now how to stand up for themselves and to speak their mind.
Hopefully when the custody crap starts you'll have them on your side.
so my wife is aware that i am totally disillusioned and i am having problems with lots of things.
one day she can see the crap(such as this past watchtower question from readers about ivf... what a pile of insanity.
if someone carries me and my wifes baby i have committed porneia rofl!!!
is no one asking who the 24 elders are now?
I think the next Revelation book will have the 24 elders represent the GB since they will be appointed over all Jesus' belognins at that time.
just a few wts that put to the effect anything from them should be taken as from jehovah himself and also with elders or being disfellowshipped, that it means jehovah himself is angry with them, that's it's punishment from him.
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that 1943 article posted by Black sheep is shocking! I put little past Rutherford but that article is as Jim Jones as it gets
I cannot believe the audacity of that mad man and the gullibility of the R&F who swallowed it "wholesale"
just a few wts that put to the effect anything from them should be taken as from jehovah himself and also with elders or being disfellowshipped, that it means jehovah himself is angry with them, that's it's punishment from him.
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marking
according to the november wt study article, there a study lesson about 7 shepherds, and 8 dukes.
the interesting thing is par 17. it instructs the elders to not question the instrutions they receive during an modern day asyrian attack.
maybe some kool aid is coming.
marking