"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
And what about if someone chooses to disobey jehovah in perfection?
Satan was perfect yet he disobeyed
Since jehovahs name will already have been sanctified the answer I've always understood is the disobedient one would be executed immediately
What of their family? No tears? No sorrow?
Living in a world where disobedience means instant death and survivors are incapable of feeling anything but pleasure all the time?
What a joke
"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
And what about if someone chooses to disobey jehovah in perfection?
Satan was perfect yet he disobeyed
Since jehovahs name will already gave been sanctified the answer I've always understood is the disobedient one would be executed immediately
What of their family? No tears? No sorrow?
Living in a world where disobedience means instant death and survivors are incapable of feeling anything but pleasure all the time?
What a joke
as a pre-awakened ms, i heard of 2 stories that i found very shocking at the time.
please keep in mind, i was following wt blindly at the time and was part of what i thought was the true religion.
the first shocking story was when i attended a large meeting for elders and ministerial servants covering our circuit.
I heard stories about murder and wife swapping.
2nd hand from a credible source
Also about a PO that basically practiced witchcraft but called it something else
The older I get nothing surprises me
I've seen all kinds of crap 1st hand. All kinds of affairs, drug use by elders & MS (and I mean serious drugs not pills or weed), extreme alcoholism, strip joints prostitutes you name it
It's a spiritual paradise
so, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.
just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.
facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....
I had a similar experience
I went back through all my topics and posts and identified the bro that called me by my user name
I then had ammo on him
I never brought it up again and neither did he
He's an MS now
hi one and all.. i've lurked for 3 years, about time i signed up.. i'm a still in ms due to family.. fully awake.. i look forward to getting to know all of you..
today has been a horrible day.
what began as a day of joy finding out that one of my lifelong friends had her baby, turned into a nightmare when her brother called me to let me know she had passed away after birth.
i was in shock and didn't ask how.
If you ask a witness if they would jump in front of a bus to save their child if it meant their own life they'll answer YES !
If you ask them if they'd give them a blood transfusion OH NO!
the difference? They'll die for their kids if it means a resurrection but not if they would lose out on it.
Translation: I love my kids but not enough to die forever!
a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.
i was surprised to say the least!.
i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.
Nope
I'd sign
Then get df'd for saving someone's life and dubs shunning me for saving their friends life
Ultimate cognitive dissonance
to my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
Wasn't this concept addressed in a questions from readers decades ago? Like as far back as the 1950's?
I think even Rutherford may have commented on this
The overlapping generation is not new to the GB
I can imagine this idea was shot down multiple times by 2/3 vote at the GB table over the past several decades
someone was asking me in the chatroom about the number of hits the site gets.
here is a brief summary (of what we currently get per week):.
21,000 visitors.
Simon we love you!
I opened my eyes for the first time back on JWD
You set me free
this is a rant mainly in response to my wife's reaction to the stupid clam meeting last night.
bear in mind, while i am not sexist, i am also not politically correct.
.... it is no secret that the women in this organization outnumber the men.
