edna75:
Welcome. It is amazing how clear everything is the moment you realize it is a cult. I agree about the polygamy.
jamiebowers:
Do you know if it is available on amazon.com?
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
edna75:
Welcome. It is amazing how clear everything is the moment you realize it is a cult. I agree about the polygamy.
jamiebowers:
Do you know if it is available on amazon.com?
Flicka
so we have only been fading for the past few months but already made up our minds that we are completely out.
we never managed to make any friends in our cong but we befriended our neighbours.. so our neighbour invited us to her b-day party in a few weeks time.
she knows that we are/were witnesses and that we are fading.. i don't see a b-day celebration as being wrong anymore.
thetrueone:
Thank you for your opinion, it is much appreciated
Flicka
so we have only been fading for the past few months but already made up our minds that we are completely out.
we never managed to make any friends in our cong but we befriended our neighbours.. so our neighbour invited us to her b-day party in a few weeks time.
she knows that we are/were witnesses and that we are fading.. i don't see a b-day celebration as being wrong anymore.
Thank you for all the replies.
The party will be next door and in the back garden so no one will see us going there.
I'm just being cautious. The only way of it getting back to the elders is via "wordly people" which is extremely unlikely.
My family lives far away so no risk of them finding out.
I have always been the model witnesss. Never celebrated anything and I was the perfect teenager.
At this stage in my life (after being irregular in meeting attendance for the past two years and inactive and fading for the last few months, I just want to stop worrying about what other people are thinking of me and live life a bit.
Flicka
so we have only been fading for the past few months but already made up our minds that we are completely out.
we never managed to make any friends in our cong but we befriended our neighbours.. so our neighbour invited us to her b-day party in a few weeks time.
she knows that we are/were witnesses and that we are fading.. i don't see a b-day celebration as being wrong anymore.
So we have only been fading for the past few months but already made up our minds that we are completely out.
We never managed to make any friends in our cong but we befriended our neighbours.
So our neighbour invited us to her B-Day party in a few weeks time. She knows that we are/were Witnesses and that we are fading.
I don't see a B-day celebration as being wrong anymore. Life is a gift and it should be celebrated.
My only fear if we attend the party is that it might somehow come out and it will put the elders on our trail...
Any advice?
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Twisty if I'm always submissive our married life would be very boring.
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Skeeter1:
Yes I do like horses.
I've seen the movie but not the series "My friend flicka".
I don't think it was shown on the tv channels here.
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Welcome Finally Awake and thank you for all the good advice from anyone else.
Well it is a bit of a catch 22 with the family. I don't talk to them as often anymore because I know they will be fishing but on the other hand because I'm trying to avoid or sometimes ignore their questions they know something is up.
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Ding:
We already downloaded Crisis of Conscience and started reading it. Jwfacts has been a tremendous help in our research especially when looking at the generation changes and finding the correct WT articles on the WT library.
ABibleStudent:
I hope that you read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control" and "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves").
I haven't read these books yet but I will try and download them.
Thank all so much again for the warm welcome.
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Thanx for the welcome.
I realized that being a witness you just go with the flow and that you never think for yourself and even if you read the publications it was just to say that you've read them.
My husband and I are currently doing a lot of reading and trying to document what we are reading so when the day comes when my family has questions I can show them the answers from our research, which I think that is still very far in the future as I'm currently trying to avoid any questions from the family.
It is definitely a great start to the new year!
Flicka
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Hi everyone.
I have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months. For the past few years I have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.
My husband (Twisty) told me regularly I only do it out of guilt but I denied it and said it I want to do these things because I love Jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the Kingdom Hall.
It has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.
Over the past few years Twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head. A few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and I'm not sure what was different this time but I understood and agreed with the points he was making.
As a JW I never really read the Bible in order to understand it by myself but our discussions prompted me to start doing some research. I started with Matthew 24 and it was as clear as daylight to me that the faithful and discreet slave is just a parable and not a prophecy. This was the turning point for me.
I attended my last convetion a few months ago and we have not been back to a meeting since then.
Although it all sounds pretty simple it's not like you all know. I grew up being a JW and my whole family are still in. They are not very open minded and I'm not sure how to tell them I no longer believe the organization is Jehovahs' spirit anointed organization but I guess we all learn how to deal with it over time.
Flicka