i had the following conversation with a brother ex-bethelite ,left in good standing to start a family and currently a po in his congragation .he regularly gives talks in district and circuit assemblies .we go way back so he tollerates my comments but he is a die hard .we had the following conversation recently.
me:" have you heard about the new light for the fds?
elder:"...is that something you read in an apostate website?".
They need to bring them down a peg or too."
Ya GOD's choosen ones whom will rule in heven with him need to be taken down a peg or two.. what the hell, it's not like they have a heavenly calling.. further proof JW's don't actually beleive their own BS..
good one RF
i'm suffering from a vicious cycle.
put the research down - declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me, ponder, make another aha connection, get sickened by it, put the research down, declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me.. ponder.
i'm glad it's not just me.. i think my jw friend has been embarrassed one time too many with wt historical facts and so now he has asked me to help him understand my concerns and present him with some research that validates it.
They can't get rid of 1914 because it's central to them... 1919 God chooses them to be FDS...so.. no 1914 no 1919..
back to "who really is FDS" .. that's a lot of splainin' to do .. they don't have the ability to rework everything! lol .. they're stuck with it
and in 2014 WTBTS proclaiming Christ invisible rule for 100 years ..
i'm suffering from a vicious cycle.
put the research down - declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me, ponder, make another aha connection, get sickened by it, put the research down, declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me.. ponder.
i'm glad it's not just me.. i think my jw friend has been embarrassed one time too many with wt historical facts and so now he has asked me to help him understand my concerns and present him with some research that validates it.
http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/carl-sagans-remarks-about-jehovahs.html
oops this one should work
edit to note: and they are still saying.. 1914... we got that right!!.... It's amazing..
i'm suffering from a vicious cycle.
put the research down - declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me, ponder, make another aha connection, get sickened by it, put the research down, declare i'm not doing it anymore because it sickens me.. ponder.
i'm glad it's not just me.. i think my jw friend has been embarrassed one time too many with wt historical facts and so now he has asked me to help him understand my concerns and present him with some research that validates it.
don't foget Carl Sagan's remarks on 1914
orior.blogspot.com/2006/02/carl-sagans-remarks-about-jehovahs.html
1974 - can divorce your marriage mate if they insist on oral / anal intercourse.
1978 - can still divorce your marriage mate if they insist on oral / anal intercourse.
1983 - cannot divorce your marriage mate if they insist on oral / anal intercourse.
and what really is the scriptural basis for all this?...
half of that 75% get disability and ssi checks.
it was kinda funny sitting there listening to them go down the line, name by name, of the ones auxilliary pioneering since the numbers are dropped to 30 hours for march & april.
as they were doing the names i was saying to myself, "she don't work", "she supposedly can't work", "he hasn't worked in years", "she gets a check", "she's probably gonna lie about the amount of hours she did" etc.. gotta love it.. i don't know if this happens in your congregation or not, but have you ever heard someone remark about someone else behind their back, "she can show up at every gathering, but she can't show up for field service!
Maybe I'm being judgemental, Lord knows I can be.
your a JW... it's the number 1 thing they are trained to do what did you expect ... LOL
But I think you are awesome..
how do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
" he's in Africa given Aids to babies"
i'm so excited-my hubby who faded over 30 years ago finally lurked here on jwn!.
i've been posting on a few threads here and there for a while now, but have not officially introduced myself.
i have told bits and pieces of my story already.
enjoyed the read... I was out for 20+ years before I deprogrammed too .. so tell hubby not to feeel too bad
Good luck and welcome
i read somewhere that 99+% of all species that ever existed on earth are extinct.. these species appeared, thrived, declined and perished.. now we are on top of the food chain like a drunk on a mechanical bull in billy bob's bar hanging on for dear life!.
humans require more than survival!.
we also need comfort, a sense of well-being, freedom to make a wide variety of choices about our lives and particularly:.
"though evident realities not beheld".. so the question is assured by what?
i read somewhere that 99+% of all species that ever existed on earth are extinct.. these species appeared, thrived, declined and perished.. now we are on top of the food chain like a drunk on a mechanical bull in billy bob's bar hanging on for dear life!.
we look behind us at the extinct ones and wonder what advantage we might exercise to stay on that bucking bull without falling off.. .
it isn't just survival we humans hunger for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNDwlyJ7UQ8
"it must be nice to be so certain"
