I'm sorry for your loss. May you remember the good yimes and the love you shared.
Posts by TOTH
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19My Grandma passed away
by Kool Jo ingood day all:.
while at work a couple days ago, i got a call that my grandma passed away.
she would've been 86 next week, but she still lived her life...so i'm getting emails ect from my home congregation from folks just checking up on me.
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Fantasy Football?
by thinking_not_believing ini think it'd be fun to start a league together.
if you need some info on me here ya go... i grew up going to raider games here in los angeles.
i'm still a fan to this day and travel to san diego every year to see them play the chargers.
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I know a couple of people that are very much into it. I have been wondering if I should or shouldn't give it a try. Let me know if your idea takes hole.
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Don't You Have Faith??????
by TOTH inawhile back i posted about my wife's father passing away.
despite her not attending meetings or even the memorial in quite some time, she and her father were always very close.
he understood her condition and did not fault her for not attending or not being active.
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Awhile back I posted about my wife's father passing away. Despite her not attending meetings or even the memorial in quite some time, she and her father were always very close. He understood her condition and did not fault her for not attending or not being active. His passing hit her with a great deal of pain and loss and it shows in her every action. She cried a lot right after he died and even now after a few months is still quite close to that threshhold of pain and will cry now and again.
This afternoon we again discussed the shabby way his memorial service was handled. Of course it was a textbook example of a jw memorial service and that is exactly her point. Precious little was said about the man and it more resembled an infomercial for the wt. Most of her family are very much involved with the organization and quite zealous. They claim to be Christian but the fact of the matter is that as immersed in their so-called truth as they are, the basics of Christian faith and human decency has not penetrated to any depth of their souls.
Case in point...
At the memorial service for her dad my wife was visibly shaken. She was very upset and sad and she cried openly. A few people seemed to be put off by her unseemly display. (sigh) Our Agnostic son and I comforted her as did her brother but most people seemed to make an effort to ignore her. Her sister in law had earlier come up to me to shake my hand and offer condolences and behaved like an automaton. I am not even kidding a tiny bit. I never saw a more robotic and unfeeling gesture in all my 51 years on this big blue ball.
When my wife went to look at the photo of her dad in the back of the hall she cried again. Her brother held her and his wife went to her very robitically and asked her, "Don't you believe in the resurrection? Don't you have faith in Jehovah? Why are you making a scene here?" (Churlish crone) My wife looked at her and said, "Is my father being resurrected TODAY? TOMORROW? Get away from me you blankety blank blank blank..." Then came over to me as I wheeled myself over to her.
Between that idiot's way of trying to encourage her and her step mom's fake efforts to offer her support, (Asked permission to count time and study with my wife), my wife is actually becoming more vocal about the things she sees that are and have always been wrong with the wt. In a way her dad's passing has been very freeing to her. But at the same time, I see her falling into a depression because of her dad being gone and what she held close to her as faith is now coming apart at the seams. I am doing my best to keep her going and encourage her to be more positive and optimistic. Does anyone have any ideas on some activities a nearly bedridden gal can take up to help her to overcome her sadness?
Thanks for listening....
TOTH-Tired of the Hypocrisy
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4 generations and Jehovah's protection
by Sour Grapes ini saw a news article on line last week of a family portrait.
there were 4 individuals in the.
picture.
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The witnesses' leadership is uttery ;ackling in any respect or consideration for people not of the body. Such a poor example to set because I see more and more of that spirit of coldness and aloofness being taken on by more and more witnesses I know.
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every time i go to reply i have to log in
by bigmac inwhy is it--every time i go to reply--i have to log in first-?
?-and do the captchya thing---never used to--stayed logged in all the time.
what do i need to do--?.
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TOTH
Check your browser settings. It sounds like your browser clears cookies upon closing out.
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will a judicial comittee allow you to face your accusers
by label licker inwe were told today, yes!
our accusers will be there.
is it true?
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Once when I was living with roommates a woman in the congregation went to the elders. Not me, not my parents, the elders about her suspicions about me smoking cigarettes. The elders went to my PARENTS with whom I no longer resided. My parents told me about a meeting they had with the elders and the sister and her husband that I was also invited to go to.
We all showed up and the accusation came out. They asked the sister to say her piece and she hemmed and hawed through it all. She finally admitted to never SEEING me smoke. She simply "FELT" like I smoked. So my mom asked her WHY she was FEELING me! LOL
I WAS smoking...But since I stone walled them and their witness was vague about her feeling, nothing happened. What a joke.
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1975 Dom
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Prayer of Renunciation
by TOTH inso, i have stated here that i am in the midst of what has so far been a fairly painless "fade".
i have over time decided that i am still a person of faith and am on the move in search of a good, christian, grace focused church to go to.
while discussing this with my cousin pete, (a lay minister with the assemblies of god church), he suggested that since i was involved with the wt that i should seriously consider offering up a prayer of renunciation.
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Thank you all for sharing your views. I appreciate it greatly.
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Prayer of Renunciation
by TOTH inso, i have stated here that i am in the midst of what has so far been a fairly painless "fade".
i have over time decided that i am still a person of faith and am on the move in search of a good, christian, grace focused church to go to.
while discussing this with my cousin pete, (a lay minister with the assemblies of god church), he suggested that since i was involved with the wt that i should seriously consider offering up a prayer of renunciation.
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TOTH
So, I have stated here that I am in the midst of what has so far been a fairly painless "FADE". I have over time decided that I am still a person of faith and am on the move in search of a good, Christian, Grace focused church to go to.
While discussing this with my cousin Pete, (A lay minister with the Assemblies of God Church), he suggested that since I was involved with the wt that I should seriously consider offering up a prayer of renunciation. His point being that the wt is very much anti-Christ and steeped in many dark and occult teachings. He says that renouncing them as a Satanist would renounce Satan or a witc would renounce magic is in order.
Has anyone else heard of this before? I would also like to know if writing a letter od disassociation fromt he wt is also a good idea from a spiritualpoint of view.
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Mic issues
by msconcerned inso on friday all day, the mic guy did a bang up job.....until david splane got to the podium.
it looked like he discussed how the mic should be set up for him, then finally when the mic guy was walking away david says " well im glad we got that settled".
then today same thing, he got the mic guy to readjust the mic for him again.
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TOTH
I think the whiner is just puitting him through the paces just because he can or just to be a pain or to seem like he is superior. In any case, the speaker is an a**hole.