Posts by jamir

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Exjw UK Annual Xmas Dinner

by Amelia Ashton in

jw
friends

hi guys.

i have provisionally booked the farmhouse on 13th december for this year's annual xmas dinner/meetup.. http://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/farmhouse-portsmouth.

all welcome just let me know so we can prepare a big enough table.

Yep. I received a job offer via LinkedIn and decided to accept, even though I am being payed slightly less - It was a chance for me to move away from the constant Jw pressure as my entire family's in the organization. This is all I can tell for now.

I always liked to participate in these exjw meetings organized in my original country's forum, and if there is a chance to continue doing so here: Great. I'd love to go & meet new people.

If there is anything you need to know about me first, just send a private message.

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Exjw UK Annual Xmas Dinner

by Amelia Ashton in

jw
friends

hi guys.

i have provisionally booked the farmhouse on 13th december for this year's annual xmas dinner/meetup.. http://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/farmhouse-portsmouth.

all welcome just let me know so we can prepare a big enough table.

jamir

Nothing for 2015?

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GB (Splane) says JW parent should "force" their children

by Gayle in

to go in "service," "baptism," etc.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsqmosgj710

jamir

Quote from Mr Spane:

"And the parents say: 'Well, you know, I don't like to force my children to do something they don't want to do' or 'I want it to come from the heart'. But is that really wise?"

Quote from w12 2/1 pp. 18-21:

Myth: Parents who are Jehovah’s Witnesses force their children to follow their faith.
Fact: Witness parents strive to inculcate love for God in their offspring, just as the Bible commands them to. Nevertheless, they realize that when a child becomes an adult, he or she will make a personal choice with regard to worship.

Contradictions, contradictions everywhere!!!

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The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants

by Londo111 in

i seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.

the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.

but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.

jamir

I was appointed MS 10 years ago. Was very happy at that time!

After I married, I found the disturbing truth about WT past and lost all confidence in it.

Since that:

- 2 yrs ago: my monthly reports dropped from 10 to 4 hours / month.

- Never served as Aux Pioneer again.

But, somehow, dispite this obvious change in my activity nobody said anything and I continued serving as a MS.

- I found that my wife was emailing love msgs to other guy (she never saw). It was very painful to me. There was a judicial committee envolving her, she regret and was not disfellowshiped. I told them I needed a pause in my MS designation - they asked me to reconsider, and said they would decrease my participation in meetings. Somehow, still a MS!!!

- A few weeks after this judicial committee, me and my wife deparated. STILL a MS!!! (After 7 a month separation, she promissed she would change - I decided to give her another chance)

- My service report dropped to 2 hours (that I don't even do - it's been 4 months since I dont go to preaching service).

- I told my wife I don't trust in the organization anymore. She lost her faith and won't even go to the meetings. For 2 months now, I am going alone.

Somehow, after all this - I AM STILL A MS!!!!

the reason? they desperatly need "qualified" (well, not-so-qualified) men the help with all the organizational crap. They don't even care about the motivation - it is cheap WORK they need.

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authoritarian governing body

by jamir in

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based here: http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/.

more suggestions?.

jamir

based here: http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/

More suggestions?

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The golden 3 step official Watchtower retirement plan

by Terry in

if you have any of the following symptoms you may want to consider the golden retirement plan offered by the watchtower society of jehovah's witnesses.. .

1.it's boring!!!

every "new" book reads just exactly like the old ones.

jamir

I liked the positive tone in the message. However this is not correct for me:

The best part is that you never have to talk to those idiots again!

The correct version would be: (...) you will never be allowed to talk to those idiots again..

And that's a problem... if your closest family are among those "idiots".

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How can he do it without holy spirit?

by irondork in

i was reading this story on cnn.com this morning about pastor youcef nadarkhani spending 1000 days on death row in an iranian prison for having converted to christianity and refusing to deny his faith.. .

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/world/meast/iran-detained-pastor/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

he's not one of jehovah's witnesses.

jamir

Anther question:

Why would satan do such harm to a Pastor from babylon (someone defending its interests)?

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Old Light,New Light,A Witness Board Game

by EmptyInside in

this is silly,but i thought of a witness board game version of monopoly.

the big difference would be how the players would move on the board.. if they pick up an "old light" card,they move backwards,a "new light" card forward to different levels of ms,elder,etc.

they could buy and sell watchtower properties along the way.

jamir

I Laughed So Hard, I almost Peed My Pants!

That game is genius and would put an end to those boring JWs gatherings and monotonous biblical games.

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Hello... this is me and my story...

by jamir in

i was raised as a jw, baptized in a 1998 district convention, somewhere in portugal.. studying with jws had some positive things (not many... just a few).

i learned to read before going to school and developed this excelent skill of reading, interpreting and resuming texts.

i was an excellent student.. as a teenager my life sucked (and i considered it a "privilege" at that time) because i simply couldn't enjoy these best years of my life, because had to avoid all contact with people of my age (there were no young people in my congregation) so i lived the best years of my life as a "forever alone".

jamir

" You haven't mentioned the effect your awakening has had upon your wife. Is she frightened? Angry? Upset? "

No... She's not that "spiritual" person. However, she self- condemns and has conscience problems because she does not like to go to preaching service, for instance.

Last month she lied while filling her report, because I did the same. But then she comes with these conscience issues.

She doesn't agree with me. She believes in the bible (she believes mankind was created 6000 years ago, by God... along with all other forms of live, and they don't evolve). I try to read science news that invalidade biblical records to her.

I noticed that she "fights" the doubt, closes her eyes for the evidence and says: "Science claims are just wrong" or "We will only understand that in the new world". Well, that's what JWs are trained to do right?

However, among all my family, I think my wife would be the only to support me if i got disfellowshipped (btw, that's a good question for her!). But the family shock would be so big, i would probabily have to move town, because I don't want them to suffer near their disfellowshipped son.

I go to the meetings obviously drunk.

Only once a week. And not much, but visibly affected by the wine. LOL. Don't worry!

I only get really Drunk when I'm going to dinner with my work colleagues... for the party!

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I can't take it anymore!

by OneDayillBeFree in

the lying, the faking and pretending, the hiding, the endless mind-numbing meetings, service, preaching, assemblies, everything!.

most of the time i can handle it quite well.

but not today.

jamir

Another thing, I just dream the day comes when the wt will be judged before man for all the suffering it has caused on those who just "wasted" their youth and had limited opportunities to develop social skills, because they were forced to avoid all contact in the "world".

People must be aware of this social problem!

I feel your pain. Pretending to be something you're not, just to please others and not lose what have... it's just draining.