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jws: Yes this is my post. I thought it was removed, but obviously moved to private section.
So much to learn to be a poster here :-)
Cirkeline
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One sisters fanatic stunt makes my mission progressing...maybe?
by Cirkeline ini sooo much enjoy being with my girls after i got reinstated last fall.
i use pretty much energy (days and nights) thinking on how to serve small drops of ttatt (the truth about the truth) to them without going to far and make them feel uncomfortable.
we have a very good relationship now, and they have accepted that i very seldom attend the meetings, but it is'nt ruining our relationship.
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One sisters fanatic stunt makes my mission progressing...maybe?
by Cirkeline ini sooo much enjoy being with my girls after i got reinstated last fall.
i use pretty much energy (days and nights) thinking on how to serve small drops of ttatt (the truth about the truth) to them without going to far and make them feel uncomfortable.
we have a very good relationship now, and they have accepted that i very seldom attend the meetings, but it is'nt ruining our relationship.
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Cirkeline
A little update:
One elder kept calling me over and over again about my contact with this apostate person. Sadly it was my best friends turning me in, so much for that friendship... And hav'nt heard from any of them since. And then I had to meet with two elders at KH.
I wanted to explain over the phone what my relation was with this apostate (cours I had to denie any relationship) but I was cut off from saying anything. He told me it had to wait until I could meet with two elders in KH. I met with them, denied any relationship, and that was it. Took about 10 min.
They were so relieved because they had been so concerned about it..... and they asked me why it was dangerous to associate with apostates, and I was a good girl and told them exactly what they wanted to hear.
I will cheerish the day when I can tell them what I really think about this whole arrangement. It does something to you, having to lie straight into their faces, but then again....is'nt that just what the WBTS has been doing notoriously since its inception? Well, I have to stay under their radar in the future untill I can walk away with my girls.
I've had many good conversations with my eldest daughter. The UN history really shocked her. She is beginning to wake up, and so is her husband. It is beyond my wildest hopes. She does'nt want to do FS because she is not shure she wants to promote a message which she does not wholly beleive in. She is reading books about the origin of christendom and religion. If she wakes up, then it will be just matter of time before little sis follows suit.
Little sis is still devoted, but I can see her struggling with on the one side wanting to be a zealous witness, and on the other side just wanting to be a teenager, spending time with friends, concerts, parties and do other normal teenage-stuff.
I just got the "captives of a concept" today. Looking forward to read it, and hopefully hand it over to my daughter.
I love this forum. It has helped me so much!
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Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know
by cedars ini've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
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Cirkeline
This is so disturbing... What I found scary in the first part, was Caleb imaging the consequenses of his acts. Like if I walk in on mummys new-washed floors it will make her having a nervous breakdown, and if I dont pick up my toys it will result in dad going to be crippeld, and our house will be totally destroyed. Those parents have allready succeded in installing guilt and fear into that little boys mind. Psycologicall abuse of a child, big time! And the mothers sighing all the time... oh gosh!
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These movies/songs are banned if you are a JW
by usualusername incoz it teaches that life exists on other planets.
grease.
think it was banned in a watchtower.
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Cirkeline
"Dirty dancing". We were warned in public talk at a convention about this specific movie back in the 80'ies.
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After Reinstatement
by NewChapter ini never had anyone close to me d'fd when i was still in my jw daze.
but i know that once it happens, good friends are crushed and desperately want that person reinstated.
when they are reinstated, there is a lot of (quiet) celebration.
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Cirkeline
I DA'd 2 1/2 years ago, and because my own children decided to shun me I just had to go back. I could not live without a relationship with them. So after 1 year attending meetings I got reinstated. I can happily say that my relation with my girls are really good now even if I dont attend meetings or FS. I was welcomed by many of the members of the congo, but I definetly could feel the cold from several, and many have not till this day even said hello. Of cours the only reason I went back was my daughters, and I am now a 100% fader. I really do not want to associate with JW's. I have no contact with any of my JW's so called true friends now. The few that showed some interest dissapeared after me sympathizing with an apostate on facebook.
I am convinced most of my (former) friends label me as a really bad mother, turning my back not only on Jehovah but also on my own children, well thats what the elders told me. And those who welcomed me when I got reinstated claiming they had missed me, I have not heard from yet. And frankly, I do not greeve it.
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Alteration in the German Watchtower about spousal physical abuse
by slimboyfat ini noticed that the german edition of the study watchtower for today didn't include the phrase about the husband "hitting" the sister.
instead it just says that he became ferociously angry, which need not imply physical abuse.
i wonder if the german translator altered it off his own back or was instructed, and how other language editions compare.
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Cirkeline
Danish version says 'hit her'. In Denmark all kinds of violence towards any human, child, woman or a man, are a criminal act and should be reported to the police. If this is a true story 'Selma & Steve', then the WTBTS are lying about what really took place. Either he hit her or not. What is the truth? So, he did hit her according to english and danish and french version, but not in german and spanish.... creepy WTBTS style.
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Cirkeline
"Most men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a mans true character, give him power" -Abraham Lincoln
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Did you experience classdivision while being JW?
by Cirkeline inwe all know how jw brag about their strong internal love.
all are treated equal no matter rank, color, money, status etc.
is this really true?
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I experienced a huge difference in the way I was treated when going from being a family and an elders wife to being a divorced single mum. We moved to Denmark in the late 90'ies. We were young, had two beautifull girls, my husband was an elder, and a high position. We got a warm welcome. Was officially welcomed from the podium, and was interviewd and we told our story. We got all kinds of help from the JW's. They had even filled our fridge with all kinds of food when we got there! We were constantly invited home after meetings and social events all the time! Then I decided to get a divorce. Me and my two girls moved to the other cong in town. In the beginning I just could not beleive what I experienced. No warm welcome, actually some of the elders wives never welcomed me! No one offered any help. One elder told me to contact if I needed some help. No invitations. There were 2 single sisters that I came close to. I realised that I had made a huge drop in status, and was being treated completely different. At that time I was very devoted, but thinking back I can now see that this was something that planted a seed of doubt in me. Could this really be the one and only true religion?
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Did you experience classdivision while being JW?
by Cirkeline inwe all know how jw brag about their strong internal love.
all are treated equal no matter rank, color, money, status etc.
is this really true?
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Cirkeline
We all know how JW brag about their strong internal love. All are treated equal no matter rank, color, money, status etc. Is this really true? What did you experience?
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One sisters fanatic stunt makes my mission progressing...maybe?
by Cirkeline ini sooo much enjoy being with my girls after i got reinstated last fall.
i use pretty much energy (days and nights) thinking on how to serve small drops of ttatt (the truth about the truth) to them without going to far and make them feel uncomfortable.
we have a very good relationship now, and they have accepted that i very seldom attend the meetings, but it is'nt ruining our relationship.
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Cirkeline
Black sheep: I know, its a balance. Not to jeopardise my chances. I emphasize how important it is to accept and love the differences in people, respect different ways of thinking and living, not labeling and judge. And I feel that the message has been prospering in their minds. I know my eldest has been more aware of how the WT try to manipulate us to be judging people that dont agree in everything coming from Brooklyn. I have made my eldest aware of the loaded language in our literature, and she gets it. And she is perfectly ok with me having this apostate friend. She knows she is a good person. My next goal is to get my daughter to read her book. But that is longterm.
S2S: Congrats with your undercover reinstatement. I wish you luck on your mission. My guess... Our type is in every cong. It would have been lovely if we could identify eachother. But I can only speak for myself. I get i little "paranoid" and watch my back not to be busted. I had second thoughts posting on this forum, afraid of being recognised by JW who know me. But the chances are very small anyone of my JW connections in my country read this. Thats why I chose this forum, far away from Scandinavia!