Posts by time2keepmoving

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Power Struggle At Head Quarters Reason For Governing Body New Light?

by frankiespeakin in

well could it be that we overlooked this little idea in our reasonings on why the governing body is comming up with new light they love the idea of?

about the f&ds?.

you know to keep any type of rebellion at bay before it starts.. have you ever woundered what many that are closely associated with the governing body are feeling about these new guys called the governing body right now with all this new light loved by the governing body,,i smell trouble a brewing for these guys right there at headquarters i'm sure thier dealing with everbody they meet they reflect this same attitude so they got to be making enemies..

time2keepmoving

Accept, Obey, Repeat. Accept, Obey, Repeat.

Everything you do is a "test of loyality"...

And is it any wonder JW's are nuts??? And, again, We'll do all your thinking for you.

Crazy ain't it, as soon as they started stressing me out with all that crap. I stepped back for the first time in a long time and took a good, hard look at this organization and within two weeks I decided to start living my life the way I saw fit as a fortysomething grown woman who was more than capable at this stage of making my own life choices.

I let too many things slide and allowed "circular reasoning" to kick-in from the weekly brainwashing sessions. I brushed off a lot of the red flags and negative things I was seeing from the so-called "friends" and borg. Until I final said "No, this shit is real, something is seriously wrong here." Soon as they called me in that back room, that was all the confirmation I needed. Yep, these people are bat-shit crazy. I knew once I walked out that room, they would never set eyes on me again. After I left I started doing some hardcore research and all my suspicious were confirmed. My only regret, (like many ex-jw's) is that I didn't questions that shit earlier!

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Conversing With a Disfellowshipped Elder

by Quendi in

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time2keepmoving

This person is probably going to go back into the organization, because that's all he knows. Good, Bad or indifferent. I don't know why you entertained him since he did not reach out to communicate with you after you left the organization, especially since you said you were good friends. He took your call because his status is the same as your now, but you know the deal if it wasn't.

Now if he is successful at getting reinstated, he will cut off communication with you and act like that conversation never happened. IMO you are just wasting your time and good common sense on someone who already knows the system is heavily flawed but is still willing to go back. I would not try to reach out to him again. I suggest you move on and don't look back, allow room for healthy, balanced individuals to come into your life. Sometimes stepping back and messing with those people who are still in or clinging to this dying organization is regression not progression for YOU!

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Todays Bloomberg/ Business Week story: Religion and Money in the U.S.A.- "How the Mormans make Money".(explains how the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society hides assets).

by Balaamsass in

the church of latter-day saints has amassed financial holdings worth billions.

here's an inside look at its business empire.

read the story on businessweek.com: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money.

time2keepmoving

According to U.S. law, religions have no obligation to open their books to the public.

This is the thing, they want to ask for YOUR money in a form of a donation, but most of these big-box religions like the JW's do not want to be transparent about where that donation is going.

Most people demand that of social services agencies like United Way and other charities, but seems like nobody is questioning where their money is going if it's an organization claiming to represent God and doing the work of the Lord!

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Reinstatement in the kingdom hall means that you'll still be shunned by all for a long time = decades!

by witchtowerwitch in

don't count on too much mercy my fine featherd friends,,,hehehe,,,lol...!after your reinstated,it will take 20 to 30 years before the dubs start to forget your sorted past.....and you all know this right?so why bother crawling back with you little tail between your legs,so a bunch of glorious elders can save face before the rank and file?no one should be df okay,as this was not the teachings of jesus,only paul who wrote this stuff,but could some wacko in the last 2000 years have inserted this satanic practice into the scriptures to control the masses and manipulate them?the apostle paul wrote too many contradictions in his writings,so why trust in anything that he wrote about?why trust the gb in hq/nyc as to their writings in these past 130 years,since everything that they wrote about is all lies,,,hehehe lol...!who is going to disfellowship them in the hq department for being liars?maybe jehovah will do it in his own due time?.

time2keepmoving

I've been disfellowshipped since December of last year. I'm so happy right now and the burden has truly been lifted. I have no intentions on going back because I know the organization is a fraud. My experiences has been that people talk....... far and wide..... and even if you try and switch Kingdom Halls, that mess seems to find its way to you.

I agree that it might be better to leave that circuit or move out of state. Shame, a person has to resort to something like that, but this is one of among many things that should tell you that God's spirit and direction is not with this organization.

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What association does The Society permit her single members?

by compound complex in

jw
friends

good morning, fellow posters:.

ironic opening question, eh?.

certainly i could answer this question myself from the publications and personal experience; however, i am interested in your perspective, background, experience (whatever you're willing to share).

time2keepmoving

There is nothing for single individuals or single-parent in that organization. Exactly like Quendi said they are "r outinely ignored or marginalized". In other words, you get 'no love' and 'no attention' for your own specific needs as a single person or parent.

The W&TS does not address, assist or encourage single people other than to run around in the full-time service or serve where the 'need is great' where ever that may be. You are not worthy of having a life, that affords, interests, friends of the opposite sex, traveling, an education, creative skills, etc. You are just some generic blob whose sole purpose in life should be to push their publications, recruit new members and be the beast of burden for all the other members in the KH. Single parents are treated even worse.

This organization is still caught up in the 50's and is very much dismissive of anything outside of the family unit with the 2.5 kids.

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little things that make you see the "truth" about this religion

by lostinthought in

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friends

i had tears in my eyes at work today.

there was an arbor day celebration and some teenagers had some speeches and they planted a tree...most people would not be as touched by the events today as i was but one of the women recieving an award said that she was proud of these children because they were doingsomething good for the communtiy...and i was proud of them too, but i was sad for jw's who would think these children are "bad" just because they are not witnesses...or the jw who would not let their children associate with these teenagers or even be part of a "wordly" club..that's what made me sad, all those years i missed looking at the little beautiful things in life in a positive light and not the negative debbie downer way jw's look at things..

time2keepmoving

This is one of the MAIN things I really disliked about the WT&TS. After a while I started feeling like they were being very mean spirited and selfish, by having all that money and not giving back to the community their Kingdom Hall's were located at. They refuse to help anybody who is not a JW and they don't even help their own members - if they are in need of temporary assistance (lost their job, can't pay the light bill, no groceries, etc). They look to the local brothers and sisters to personally help them out (if that even happens) and really they don't even care what going on personally with their members, just as long as they don't miss an afternoon of field service pushing their rag-tag magazines.

No outreach funds, monies are there to help the community where the KH's are located or their members. They just horde all that money for real estate transactions, luxury overseas trips for the GB, UN dues and fees, building and construction, legal counsel and any other bullshit they can spend that money on that does not directly benefit their members or the community at-large.

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Did U Ever "Stumble" Anyone? Were U Ever "Stumbled: By Another?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the reason many jws forgo things is because they are afraid of "stumbling" a brother or sister.

just in case---they make it a point to not do or say something that could cause a person to leave "the truth".. i knew of some witnesses that were always "stumbled" by this or that.. so silly..

time2keepmoving

How can you stumble someone when its all a big fraud.

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Changed my Last Will and Testament

by time2keepmoving in

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friends

i had to change my will and insurance policy and remove my relative who is still a witnesses as a beneficiary of my life insurance policy and exclude them from receiving any of my assets.

i hated to do it but i did not want them giving any of my money to the wts if i pass away.

i know if i left them anything they would look at it as a 'blessing from jehovah' and would definitely take any monies i left them and put some of it in the contribution box.

time2keepmoving

exwhyzee - LOL - Yep, I'm leaving every single dime and everything I own to my adult child. I changed everything over the last few weeks.

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Changed my Last Will and Testament

by time2keepmoving in

jw
friends

i had to change my will and insurance policy and remove my relative who is still a witnesses as a beneficiary of my life insurance policy and exclude them from receiving any of my assets.

i hated to do it but i did not want them giving any of my money to the wts if i pass away.

i know if i left them anything they would look at it as a 'blessing from jehovah' and would definitely take any monies i left them and put some of it in the contribution box.

time2keepmoving

ShirleyW - Glad for you. The WTS has taken, taken, taken and given nothing to their members or their member's families in return.

Selfish blind greed is the best words to describe them in this instance. They love to store up treasures on earth!

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Changed my Last Will and Testament

by time2keepmoving in

jw
friends

i had to change my will and insurance policy and remove my relative who is still a witnesses as a beneficiary of my life insurance policy and exclude them from receiving any of my assets.

i hated to do it but i did not want them giving any of my money to the wts if i pass away.

i know if i left them anything they would look at it as a 'blessing from jehovah' and would definitely take any monies i left them and put some of it in the contribution box.

time2keepmoving

@ james_woods - Even more of a reason why I can't allow them to get a dime of my money in any way.