The Watchtower organizations pampas attitude towards their handling child abuse victim's legal rights, staggers my imagination, in that they by and large have no empathy concerning the child, only what seems to be their image. To any reasonable person their actions are disgusting and shows a high mindedness of biblical proportions. Pepper
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What is the goal of the silentlambs organization?
by kenpodragon ini have followed the silentlambs issue for awhile now.
i saw the special on dateline, and read a few things on newspapers and online links.
i have a question though and wonder if someone could answer it for me, as this was asked to me by someone "outside of the organization" and i did not know.. .
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Should I have a Christmas tree?
by scuba99 inhi folks,.
i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.
although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.
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Pepper
>>> I had this happen recently, my JW mother was visiting prior to Xmas last year, and so I waited until after her visit to put up our tree (it being my first) and I had the most fun decorating it and finding the best lights etc...I'm really good at being a pagan now, I have it all worked out for this Xmas.
So put up your tree and enjoy!! Merry Christmas!!! <<<
Oh my," so funny, me too. I went to see a lady friend in St. Louis, MO last year for Christmas and I helped her set up her tree, it was really fun, for a moment I thought the earth would open up swallow me, but I am still here loads of laughs. We had many dinners Christmass ham, lots of sweets, her kids were home we gave gifts it was nice, I did not marry this gal, but the Christmass occasion was delightful, I aim to do it again this year with someone new, LOL.
Pepper
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WT 9-8-02 Comments You Will Hear at the WT Study
by blondie in(i shouldn't post this when i'm half asleep) .
comments you will not hear at this weekend's wt study (but i will be thinking them) .
week of september 2-8, 2002
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Pepper
Blondie were you having a bowel movment while you were having that post?
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Show your appreciation to Connie Chung.
by Pepper inthe august 14, airing of connie chungs program with bill bowes's issues with in the watch tower, deserves a thank you note from all who really are concerned and desire more on the part of the news media.
e-mail her program on cnn with a brief recognition of cnn and her fantastic report.
pepper.
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Pepper
The August 14, airing of Connie Chungs program with bill Bowes's issues with in the Watch Tower, deserves a thank you note from all who really are concerned and desire more on the part of the news media. E-mail her program on CNN with a brief recognition of CNN and her fantastic report. Pepper
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Quote from JW's response to Panorama
by Dacke infrom jw's letter to betsan powys of panorama (available at www.watchtower.org under "media"),on the policy of jw's handling of child abuse allegations:.
"in addition to making a report to the branch office of jehovah's witnesses, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities.
if so, we expect the elders to comply.
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>>> Our children are at risk! Do not poo poo their recollections of what happened to them. Granted, there are false allegations,...but aren't our children worth the effort to have each and every allegation investigated by people who are trained to do so? Why has it gone on so long to leave this "investigation" work to untrained individuals?<<<
The reason it has gone on for so long this way is simple:
there are those who are thinking too highly of themself they are:
conceited narcissistic big-headed boastful cocksure cocky egocentric
egoistic egoistical
egomaniacal egotistic egotistical haughty prideful proud self-important
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Jehovah where are you? (DateLine)
by Pepper inwith all the hurt and pain from so many witness's being insulted by the socitys strange veiws on so many issues that it claims is from gods own heart, it leads me at times to ask: "jehovah just where are you and do you really see anything at all going on with in an oranization that claims to be your own".
waiting for an ansure.. pepper
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Pepper
With all the hurt and pain from so many Witness's being insulted by the Socitys strange veiws on so many issues that it claims is from Gods own heart, it leads me at times to ask: "Jehovah just where are you and do you really see anything at all going on with in an oranization that claims to be your own". Waiting for an ansure.
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Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs
by Lee Elder inpending tragedy for the wts and jws.
the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.
i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.
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Your post is logical given the situation just as you aptly stated.
People are people, they will reacte as people WT does not use good sense when they insinuate only they are all wise and all the rest of socicty is satanic. Pepper -
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Voice your opinion- Organised religion.
by jerome inmy main problem with organised religion is when totalitarianism comes into play.
thats when you get institutions like the catholic church in its earlier years.
that should never be allowed.. jerome
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Pepper
The Chinese ruler Mao said: religion is the opium of the people, he was right. Pepper
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Mixed thoughts re: Silentlambs group
by Pathofthorns ina person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
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Pepper
If it were not for the Internet and this web site and others like it Jehovahs Witness's as well as many other religious people and denominations would not have much information and feed back to create a system to promote checks and balances.
The powerfull much like the Popes of the thirteenth centery heaped heavey greif on people cause information could not be dispenced we are lucky to have this ablity thank God for it. Pepper -
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DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA
by You Know inhardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.
the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.
datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.
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>>>The most shocking and disgusting aspect of the Dateline program, in my opinion, was the airing of a snippet of a private conversation that was recorded without the victim’s knowledge. Such underhanded smear tactics should be offensive to all people.<<<
Oh get a life! it depends on the State your resideing in, or a taped coversation if it involves admissions of criminal acts or evidence there of, or if you arein the conversation, there are many factors to consider here. If the Judicial systems can pervert justice what makes you think the Jehovah's Witness judicial body is above it?
Pepper