DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

by You Know 165 Replies latest social current

  • You Know
    You Know

    Hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasn’t craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion. The intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view. Dateline’s presentation of the Watchtower’s child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.

    From the very beginning of the presentation Dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of Jehovah’s Witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we don’t celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the Devil and that we want them all to die. If the programmers had wanted to they could have, for example, highlighted the fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses are known throughout the world for our peculiar beliefs that war and killing are wrong and that thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses have gone to prison rather than violate the law of Christ. Obviously, the media mind-control apparatus had no interest in presenting the viewers with an accurate picture of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    The most shocking and disgusting aspect of the Dateline program, in my opinion, was the airing of a snippet of a private conversation that was recorded without the victim’s knowledge. Such underhanded smear tactics should be offensive to all people. The government, for instance, has to get a court order to tap into private phone conversations of suspected criminals, because in a nation that ostensibly values personal freedoms it is generally recognized that people should have the freedom not to have their private conversations taped without their knowledge and played back in order to vilify or entrap them. Not only did Bill Bowen reveal himself to be the lowest sort of slithering weasel who was willing to violate all accepted standards of ethical behavior in that regard, when he used his position as a trusted elder calling Bethel about a confidential case in order to gather damning information, the Dateline producers were all too willing to abuse their power by crossing that boundary as well.

    Probably the most significant aspect of the Dateline program is the influence of apostates upon the production. The Armageddon illustration from the Watchtower’s brochure of horrified people falling into a crevice was obviously supplied to the Dateline producers by apostate JWs in order to inflame public opinion. And the absurd spin on disfellowshipping was absolutely ridiculous. First, the show presents disfellowshipping as a fate worse than death in order to outrage people that the abuse victim was disfellowshipped. But, later, the program admits that child abusers were kicked out also, but that they were later welcomed back. “How dare they extend mercy!” So, as apostates are prone to do, both sides of the issue are used in an accusation, whereby disfellowshipping is portrayed as an atrocity, and not disfelowshipping or reinstatement is also presented as an outrage. It’s a classic apostate technique that is constantly demonstrated in this forum.

    The greatest disservice of Dateline propaganda is the way viewers were left with the suggestion that the next time Jehovah’s Witnesses knock on their door that one of them is probably there to rape their child. Unquestionably, the Watchtower has a child abuse problem. No doubt the Society wishes it had handled things differently. But, the most outrageous aspect of the Dateline production was that the child abuse victims were shamelessly victimized again by those whose obvious intent is to exploit their unfortunate situation in order to persuade the public not to listen to our message the next time we call.

    / You Know

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    The greatest disservice of Dateline propaganda is the way viewers were left with the suggestion that the next time Jehovah’s Witnesses knock on their door that one of them is probably there to rape their child.

    There you go projecting again.

  • blondie
    blondie

    As to the recorded message, if you have nothing to hide, then why be concerned.

  • TR
    TR

    You Know, you are more of a dipshit than I previously thought. How that can be is bizarre.

    Why didn't the WTS or Brown go on the program to refute Bill and Co? Look, the bottom line is how the WTS deals with these low-life molesters that inhabit the Kingdumb Halls. Your obvious priority is protecting the WTS, ours is protecting CHILDREN and VICTIMS. What is so hard to understand about that? Evidently, you are not willing to do what is RIGHT.

    TR

    UADNA-WA
    Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America- Washington Division

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    Ahh the JW-apologists come out of the woodwork...

    Funny how they proclaim from the rooftops and district assemblies victory when some individual of public importance praises their organization.

    Now they get downright angry and evasive when the shoe is on the other foot.

    YouKnow said:

    From the very beginning of the presentation Dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of Jehovah’s Witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we don’t celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the Devil and that we want them all to die.
    Are you denying that Bobby?

    Careful how you answer.

    Here, Ill provide some documentation for you.

    *** You Can live Forever (1982, 1990) p.255 ***
    Do not conclude that there are different roads, or ways, that you can follow to gain life in God's new system. There is only one. There was just one ark that survived the Flood, not a number of boats. And there will be only one organization--God's visible organization -- that will survive the fast-approaching "great tribulation." It is simply not true that all religions lead to the same goal . . . . You must be part of Jehovah's organization, doing God's will, in order to receive his blessing of everlasting life...
    So lets just forget about any honest, goodhearted people who are not of the JW-faith. What about the firefighters who gave their lives at the WTC? They sacrificed their own lives to save total strangers. Yet because they were Catholic or Protestant your LOVING God will not spare them?

    Better check your literature.. after all..

    *** Watchtower 1959 October 1 p.607 Questions from Readers ***
    The literature published by the Watch Tower Society is published in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. Regardless of who may write certain articles, they are checked carefully by members of the governing body before they are published; so they are properly viewed as coming from the Society.

    ...So we let the literature speak for itself.

    But, a picture is worth a thousand words:

    Now that you have been exposed for the liar and fanatic you are, onto another topic.

    YouKnow gets upset about the taped phone call.

    The most shocking and disgusting aspect of the Dateline program, in my opinion, was the airing of a snippet of a private conversation that was recorded without the victim’s knowledge. Such underhanded smear tactics should be offensive to all people. The government, for instance, has to get a court order to tap into private phone conversations of suspected criminals, because in a nation that ostensibly values personal freedoms it is generally recognized that people should have the freedom not to have their private conversations taped without their knowledge and played back in order to vilify or entrap them.
    The fact is the TRUTH WAS REVEALED.

    In the 2001 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses they had an entire article on how "brothers" have had secret meetings in countries currently under ban. Yet now he wants to talk about illegal activity?

    LMAO.

    You actually watched Dateline Bobby? Shouldn't you have been at TMS or BookStudy?

    In your arrogance and contempt you refuse to admit their is a problem.

    You are more interested in protecting the "reputation" of the WTS than the children who undoubtedly have been SEXUALLY MOLESTED.

    Seek professional help.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    You Know,

    The Watchtower loves the media when it makes its videos. Each video portrays just one face of the watchtower - the sugar coated fluffy face. BUT when someone shows the other side to the watchtower - oh well now the media is bad!

    Its just the same with the websites. The watchtower says the internet is dangerous and makes warnings about websites. Fair enough. Then it USES the internet to promote itself.

    The UN issue. OH the UN is going to be destroyed. But hang on a minute, we'll just USE it for our own devices...AGAIN.

    Sirona

    ** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

  • Valis
    Valis
    a negative impression of Jehovah’s Witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we don’t celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the Devil and that we want them all to die.

    I'm sure you don't want us all to die before the end comes and you neglect to convert all 6 billion+, but in the end it won't bother you at all. You'll have the whole planet to yourselves...no Apostates, no beast and certainly no fals religion. The oddball crackpot warrants the old saying.."if the shoe fits..."

    The Armageddon illustration from the Watchtower’s brochure of horrified people falling into a crevice was obviously supplied to the Dateline producers by apostate JWs in order to inflame public opinion.
    Who exactly is being inflamitory with the use of those pictures? Is this not a litteral/pictoral translation or how Jehovahs Witnesses envision the end? I think so! Perhaps the WT shouldn't use them if they are afraid of them being construed as real JW belief. The black art of propaganda indeed.

    But, the most outrageous aspect of the Dateline production was that the child abuse victims were shamelessly victimized again by those whose obvious intent is to exploit their unfortunate situation in order to persuade the public not to listen to our message the next time we call.
    A job well done! It sucks when the elders can't control/shut up those already exploited, when they dropped the ball in the first place huh
    YK? Turnabout is always fairplay!

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • You Know
    You Know
    As to the recorded message, if you have nothing to hide, then why be concerned.

    You should ask that of Bill Bowen. He is the one who hid the fact that he was secretly recording a conversation that the trusting brother would naturally assume was between two elders. No doubt the conversation was much longer and more detailed than the brief snippet that was aired, so the producers have it in their power to control what they want the public to hear and hid anything that might give the viewer pause to consider any other aspect. It's a totally rigged game and anyone who endorses that sort of underhanded journalism has no interest in truth and really deserves to be victims of the propagandizers. / You Know

  • blondie
    blondie

    And what of the elders I have known who recorded conversations without telling people or represented themselves as the only person on the line when another elder was listening in? Theocractic strategy works both ways. God doesn't need recordings to sort out the liars.

    The real issue is were children molested and then raped all over again by the elders in their so-called judicial system. I know they have been because I am one of them and I have been personally involved in many other cases.

    It's not necessary for the You Knows of the world to be convinced. What is important is that victims and their families/supporters know there is an alternative.

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    Yes, the end of the month is well along and You Know must get his time in! So he posts inflammatory posts to entice ex-JWs to respond.
    How pathetic, you poor little lonely troll.

    And, you know, You Know, I really wonder why you aren't busy in some position in your congregation? If you were an elder or MS, you wouldn't have time to post your dishonest blatherings here. So what is your problem? Are you judged mentally imbalanced by your own JW peers as unworthy or unstable? How it must torture you. You are judged a flake by JWs and non-JWs alike.

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