Posts by pale.emperor

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Overcoming deeply ingrained false beliefs. (short video)

by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

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the jw cult systematically teaches doctrines, which in turn become beliefs, that hinders a persons mental, emotional and spiritual growth.

here are some great pointers on how to overcome deeply ingrained false beliefs.. .

1 timothy 4:2. such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.. https://youtu.be/agywceulbx0.

pale.emperor

Well said jp1692. I hate it when you see an interesting video then it turns out they're another religious movement or crack-pot spiritual movement.

A healthy skepticism is your best friend!

Totally!

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Is JW.org unbreakable

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question for good reason.

let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.

jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.

pale.emperor

When i was waking up I used the phrase "its like living in North Korea".

And it is. Information control is being used. Threats of losing your family. A lot of people in N.Korea know it's bullshit but think they're the only ones who think it so they go along with it.

This religion will, i hope in my lifetime, dwindle into a little online based church soliciting donations. Either that or it'll form a splinter group and the process will start again.

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jwartwork.org

by bs_since_1870s in

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i just updated my website, any feedback is welcome!.

jwartwork.org.

pale.emperor

Love it! Saved into my favorites. This'll be an excellent resource for my YouTube videos.

Must have taken you ages to save and sort all of them!

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

Update: He text me last night saying two elders turned up for a shepherding call without warning. I asked how it went he said "They tried to get me to come back. I played along with it but i dont want to so i wont be going back."

He laughed and said "you told me this would happen." And... get this guys... he asked me "have you seen this website JWFacts?"

I let him tell me all about it as if i didnt know. He's going to have a lot of enjoyable reading on there:)

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

pale.emperor

I wonder if the video at last years regional assembly. You know the one stopping the young boy (Sergie?) from playing the violin had an effect on your Brother?

Yes we mentioned this! He's Sergei! We had a little laugh about it. He was in an orchestra a few years ago and absolutely loved it. Unfortunately he was pressured to give it up because it "may" mean him missing a few meetings. He'll probably get back into it now.

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International Covention...my elevator ride with head of Bethel and his ass kiss assistant!!

by Witness 007 in

melbourne international convention australia, thousands of watchtower robots and i happened to get in an elevator with viv mouritz one of the main men at bethel.

he had a young pretty sister who was escorting him around.

i stood behind them and rocognized him instantly.

pale.emperor

I would have had fun with that.

"Hey, I recognise you! You're the guy that fills the vending machines in my work arnt you? I knew I knew you! How's your mum? Did she ever get her feet looked at by the chiropodist?"

Or to the sister:

"Hey. Did we make out at the crazy get together in the Garners last month? Man we were so wasted!"

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

pale.emperor

If he hasn't already, your brother needs to start learning TTATT. Otherwise, there is a danger he might go back if he doesn't intellectually understand just how far this organization is from "the truth".

I know Londo111. I dont want to overload him with apostasy, because i know once our family find out he's back in contact with me they'll claim im feeding him "apostate driven lies". Slowly slowly.

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

pale.emperor

I was intrigued by your brother's comment: "Now they're saying there's two classes of anointed."
I haven't heard anything about that. Do you know what that is about?

He's referring to the "overlapping generation teaching". It's hilarious. Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO0Z8m2n-k

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Going "Hollywood" not helping!

by eyeuse2badub in

going “hollywood” hasn’t seemed to help build any enthusiasm for the wtbts.

think about it, jw’s now have their own studio to make videos and cartoons.

the ‘kingdom’ dirges (songs) have received a makeover to a bit more modern tunes.

pale.emperor

Only an hour ago my brother informed me that he's left the witnesses and that "they're making all these weird videos now". (Full threat here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5689787677671424/my-younger-brother-has-left-witnesses-d)

Well done Watchtower, keep doing what you're doing. You're hemorrhaging members at an unprecedented rate.

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

pale.emperor

Absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!

I haven't seen or spoke to him in a year. I'd lost all contact with him, no Facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house. Today i received a text from an unrecognized number saying "hi [Pale.Emperor], it's [my brother]. Can you call me when you get this? I need to speak with you". I was in work but left my desk and found a quiet room and called him. He sounded really happy to hear my voice and asked if we could meet in Cafe Nero for a chat at lunchtime.

So i make my way there and i cant see him. I'm standing around looking for him, then some man i dont recognize waves at me. It was him. I didn't recognize him as he looks very different. He'd lost weight, was wearing decent clothes, and seemed really happy. This is the guy who, as a JW, was on anti-depressants, was overweight, and constantly banging on about armageddon and putting "the truth" first.

We hugged and i asked how he's been. He shown me some stuff he'd bought today all classical music related (he's obsessed with the violin and wasted his talent in the cult rather than pursuing it professionally). He told me straight away, "[Pale.Emperor], I've left the Jehovah's Witnesses." My heart jumped. I was so relieved. I told him that's great news and asked what had happened. I'll give you his reply:

"I was burned out. For years I've been reaching out, reaching out, reaching out, ministry every day, studying every day, answering up in the KH. In the end i literally couldn't do any more but they kept asking for more. In the end i had a breakdown. The family know but they didn't tell you. The elders came to see me in the hospital. They were nice and all but before leaving Bro. _______ asked for my ministry report for the month. I burst into tears right there in the hospital. The nurse had to tell them to leave. I didn't even want to be in the new system anymore because you had to do so much to get there. And it's not even a guarantee you'd get through even if you are a perfect JW. And there's these weird videos they're making now and now they're saying there's two classes of anointed people. Surely this is nonsense. Loads in our congregation dont talk about it. I dont think anyone actually believes it. Anyway, a week after the hospital i decided to kill myself. But i had a change of heart and saw my doctor instead. I told him about what lead me here and how I'm doing all i can for my god but it's never enough and i cant stand the thought of being alive anymore. The doctor suggested i take a holiday from it. Either literally go away for a week or just spend a week doing what i want to do. I did. A week became two weeks. Two weeks became a month. A month became two months and with every passing week i noticed i was getting happier. I haven't read a Watchtower in months and i feel so much "lighter". I work out, i watch comedies on TV that cheer me up, i go out and talk to people in cafes and libraries. And now i go busking with my violin. I have a license off the council and everything. I made £30 only yesterday. People came up to me and said my music is beautiful. I still believe in God, but i dont want to be in that religion anymore. I'm just going to live my life now and be happy. I'm a good person and i dont harm anyone."

I was so happy to hear this (well, not the suicide bit but you know what i mean). As you can imagine. I told him that once you stop reading their literature you do feel a little better as the weeks go on. I told him that whenever he feels down he should call me or even pop over to my house. We caught up about me, and whats new in the family. He told me that his congregation (the one i grew up in) is losing members. They dont even fill half the seats anymore.

I told him what to expect. "Concerned" elders visits, family pressure, my sister telling him he's going to die in armageddon (her favorite line). He's invited me to his new apartment this weekend. I'm going to help him through some personal stuff he mentioned that i wont share here as it's irrelevant.

But this is good news.

Well done Watchtower, you're burning out even your most zealous members.