Where else but in the Witness religion could you have a guy who has no status in the REAL world..elevated to feel important (or at least important in the little fishbowl he’s in)?
Imagine, I was disfellowshipped by two gardeners and a bus driver.
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Have you ever known elders who were more into being and elder than really being a believer?
by phoenixrising ini have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
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Have you ever known elders who were more into being and elder than really being a believer?
by phoenixrising ini have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
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pale.emperor
In the congregation I was raised in, it was the same elders for a good 20 years. They were either related - father, son or brother, brother or long time serving men. You didnt have a chance in hell of being appointed. They liked to keep it in the family. We had the same min servants for like 20 years.
Eventually, some of those elders died and one ran off with his secretary and was DFd. Then, lo and behold, within a year they appointed a load of min servants to elders. This was taken as wonderful guidance from Jehovah. The min servants were replaced by appointing brothers who were absolutely unsuitable. My brother in law being one. He was on the fence about the religion at the time he was made a servant, then suddenly the religion was the best thing in the world.
In my last congregation it was all about power. They only appointed their friends. It was an open joke in the congregation that in order to be an elder you had to live on "__________ Street". The street where all of the elders just so happened to live.
Some congregations, it seemed like you just collected so many tokens on cereal boxes and mailed them off and became an elder. Zero bible knowledge.
None of them were in it to serve others and provide encouragement. In fact, of all the elders I've known I can think of only one from when I was a kid who seemed to genuinely love the brothers and sisters and was very kind.
One brother, a WWII veteran, turned down being an elder 4 times. And ironically he was absolutely the kind of person I respected and thought should have been one.
The desire to be an elder should disqualify for life anyone ever being one.
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Alert: Following blindly jw.org these day / RISK
by Gorbatchov inthis night i could not sleep and my thoughts went on and on.
the result:.
i observe that many jw family members follow the instructions of the elders at zoom meetings like they come directly from god.
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pale.emperor
I think of JWs like you mentioned the same way I think of someone who is mentally ill. You ever met anyone with dementia or with a severe developmental disability? That.
They say things normal people wouldnt say.
They do things normal people wouldnt do.
They think things about the outside world that normal people dont.
They're mentally ill. Being in the JW org is self-induced mental illness.
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US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely
by JWTom inthere was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.
however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.
also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.
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pale.emperor
So it's not saying that KH's will be closed indefinitely, just for the foreseeable.
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US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely
by JWTom inthere was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.
however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.
also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.
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pale.emperor
Sounds almost unbelievable to me. But I do believe the cult will become another online based “religion”.
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pale.emperor
By that logic, god himself must have a creator more complex than him, and so would that creator, and that one ad infinitum.
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Are We Living In The Last Days?
by Vanderhoven7 injust received this note out of the blue from a pimi jw.
how would you respond?.
hi vander,.
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pale.emperor
You could pick literally any period of history where all of those points could apply.
The black death was worse than anything we have now.
WWII killed more than any war going on now.
Times are better now than they were in times past. I'd ask which period of history he'd rather live in?
And also, since when have JWs preached the gospel of Jesus? When they call they talk about armageddon or the org - not Jesus ransom sacrifice.
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Frederick Franz enjoyed wining and dining in Japan
by yoko N ina japanese sister living in kansai was asked by japan's branch office to take f. franz and his cronies to wining and dining.. her daughter left borg and are now publishing her experiences.. .
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pale.emperor
Great.
Is there a link to more photos? Is she on a blog or something?
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Have You Isolated Yourself Because of the Virus 🦠?
by minimus insome people i know have not gone out of their houses in weeks.
some will walk near their homes and run right back in.
meanwhile, i go food shopping and i see tons of people, many with masks and gloves on..
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pale.emperor
I've been given provision to work from home. We only go out for shopping once a week and to walk the dog - keeping well away from others... but there's hardly anyone out anyway.
At first working from home was enjoyable. But now I'm finding that I end up just working solid 8:30-5 without a break because I'm already home and if my phone rings I just answer it and deal with the issue.
Really need to get into a routine I think.
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You heard it here first. U.S. District conventions CANCELLED!
by nowwhat? inprudent decision even if the pandemic is over you are going to have people that.
lost jobs can't afford to go.
not allowed any vacation time rest of year.
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pale.emperor
I was checking my old hotel reviews online a while back and noticed one in Liverpool I reviewed that I stayed in during the convention. £450+ for three days!! The hell was I thinking wasting that money on a 3 day convention? And I was still expected to donate (I never did).
Just think if we added up all the money and time we wasted at these conventions, if we'd have invested it into a fund we'd be better off.