Posts by pale.emperor

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My Brother Called Me Yesterday...

by pale.emperor in

my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.

after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.

this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.

pale.emperor

I worry thatv your brother seems more convinced after the video t ghe an he was before.

He loves the idea of an end of the world apocalypse/end times/sci-fi kind of story. When he was living his own life, it was a mess, but he genuinely believed in Buddha, angels, the hindu gods, norse gods, aliens building the pyramids, UFO's etc etc etc

Tell him what he wants to hear and he's like putty. But then if you seriously debate with him his ideas fall away. Which i think will happen here.

Cigs or not, they have him in his head, if not his heart. He wants the jw fantasy even tho he knows he can't live it. Just remind him that if he backsides after committing to it, you will be there for him. Does he fully understand that they will reject him like they do you when that happens? [And it will happen]

If he does progress further i will keep reminding him that it only takes one slip up and the elders will be just dying to disfellowship him. And he knows what that means.

I'll keep yis all posted.

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Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

by wifibandit in

will you be a survivor of the last days?.

serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

pale.emperor

Some become critical, saying that Jehovah does not have an organization
May say that loving one’s fellowman is what really counts or that having a personal relationship with God is
the really important thing or even that personally reading the Bible is sufficient (rs 326-8)
Those who adopt such viewpoints are like Satan
They break away from the Father, Jehovah (1Ti 1:19, 20; 2Ti 2:16-19)

Ouch! That's rather strong wouldn't you say? Like Satan? Does he read the bible every day without consulting the GB for clarification too?

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

pale.emperor

One spooky, creepy speaker here. BEWARE OF WRONG THOUGHTS! (This isn't a cult or anything):

https://youtu.be/eoTiGMEnMO0

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My Brother Called Me Yesterday...

by pale.emperor in

my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.

after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.

this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.

pale.emperor

He rang me again today. He asked what he thought our dad would think if he were alive today and me being disfellowshipped, and asked do I think he'd talk to me. My answer:

Me: Well, you need to remember this isn't the religion my dad believed in.

Him: How d'you mean?

Me: Remeber when we'd all do the book study and Watchtower together? He believed that those who saw 1914 would be alive when the great tribulation started. He believed our religion is right to not have logos and that this religion will never ask for money because Jehovah is guiding it. He believed that Jesus was his mediator and that blood transfusions of any kind were unscriptural. Now - each one of them beliefs have been broken or bent. I don't even know if he'd still be a JW.

He didn't answer that. But he just said "I never thought about that".

Little seeds.

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My Brother Called Me Yesterday...

by pale.emperor in

my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.

after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.

this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.

pale.emperor

Crazyguy, he's also being told that I will try and steer him away. If I start mentioning sites like this and the reasons I'm not a JW any more it would be a red flag to him and it would also be playing right into the JW hands.

I need him to see this for himself, which I've no doubt he will.

I've been called many things, but pathetic I ain't. I know what I'm doing.

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

pale.emperor

Remember the young brother that played the evil King in the last drama? I see him being a main contender for GB-ship. Seen him give a talk about "how we should oust any wrong thoughts" that was leaked online and he was a 10/10 cult leader.

Oh, those "wrong thoughts" we're "any doubts you have" by the way.

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

pale.emperor

I think the single biggest mistake the Governing Body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating JW Broadcasting and putting their GB members on there... on a weekly basis too.

When i was a kid, i had no idea who the Governing Body were, what their names were or what they looked like. There was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.

When i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:

Ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts. They cant help but speak every sentence a pearl of wisdom. Guided by Jehovah's holy spirit, living simple, honest lives and always looking out for our welfare and spirituality - making sure we have the "proper food at the proper time".

So you can imagine my disappointment when JW Broadcasting is released and shows me that they actually look more like this:

We have a narcissist, a clown, a token black guy, a German guy who contradicts the other guys in his talks, a virgin, a liar and guy who makes up stories about an overlapping generation with a "simple chart".

They would have done a lot better stating behind the scenes and keeping the mystery alive. Also, how much has setting up the studio, the shiny tables, background and squeaky new flooring cost? Those pro cameras and sound equipment aren't cheap you know. For a publishing cult that has child abuse victim claims to pay out on you'd think they would be more frugal.

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Yorkshire Ripper turns to Islam

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

from the daily star sunday 4 september 2016. yorkshire ripper turns to islam: muslim inmates to protect sutcliffe behind bars.

the yorkshire ripper is set to become a muslim after hardline islamists offered to protect him in prison.. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/543061/yorkshire-ripper-islam-muslim-inmates-protect-sutcliffe-behind-bars.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/92500001/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-now-baptised-jehovahs-witness.

pale.emperor

In the new system he'll have a chance to apologize to his victims - "Hi Beverly. It's me - Pete. Remember that time when I picked you up in my van, fucked you on the passenger seat and refused to pay the full wack, then I gave you a full wack over the head with my adjustable spanner? Well I was just being a naughty boy, and Jeebus has forgiven me my silliness. Lo, we're in paradise. Amen."
Let's wait on Jehovah - translation: let's do fuck all and forget about it.

LMAO!!

Wilma: Pete? Peter is that you?

Pete: Wilma McCann! How are you?

Wilma: Fancy meeting you here <hug> well i must say i never expected to see you here.

Pete: I know! Well, i changed when they sent me to that mental asylum.

Wilma: Good, good.

Pete: By the way, sorry for smashing your head in on the grass back in 1975. And for stabbing you in the head, chest and neck.

Wilma: Ohhhhh that's alright Pete. It all worked out alright in the end.

Pete: Yeah... so hows the family.

Wilma: Oh well, then never made it Pete. They never became Jehovah's Witnesses before armageddon so were - ckkk! - you know, killed by Jehovah and Jesus.

Pete: Oh thats a shame. Still. Least i made it huh?

Wilma: That's the main thing Pete. Hey, im having tea with Mozart and Chairmin Mao later, you wanna come with?

Pete: Maybe another time, i already promised Elvis and Ian Brady we'd go bowling.

Wilma: Aww - never mind.

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Yorkshire Ripper turns to Islam

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

from the daily star sunday 4 september 2016. yorkshire ripper turns to islam: muslim inmates to protect sutcliffe behind bars.

the yorkshire ripper is set to become a muslim after hardline islamists offered to protect him in prison.. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/543061/yorkshire-ripper-islam-muslim-inmates-protect-sutcliffe-behind-bars.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/92500001/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-now-baptised-jehovahs-witness.

pale.emperor

I was still in when he "converted" to the JW's. The way the rank and file dealt with cognitive dissonance of a serial rapist/murder becoming one of their own was brilliant.

"Well Jehovah must have drawn him because he read his heart and knew he was truly repentant".

"There was a king in the bible that sacrificed his own son to a false god - and Jehovah forgiven him".

"In the new system he'll have a chance to apologize to his victims"

And that old favorite... "Lets wait on Jehovah". Ah yes, the answer to all your troubles. Wait on Jehovah.

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My Brother Called Me Yesterday...

by pale.emperor in

my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.

after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.

this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.

pale.emperor

Oh dear.... He sounds like the perfect person the society targets.

If only mom and dad had emphasized more secular education and less cult education, your brother would have been fine today. Oh well, wishful thinking.

The FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) is just dripping from his responses. Very sad.

Tell me about it. I have to keep reminding him that he's doing nothing wrong. I'm cautious not to mention religion but sometimes im just dying to. Like "is that what the bible says or what the Watchtower magazines say?" or "so, according to the bible, Jehovah wants you to stop talking to me?"

But if i do mention religion it'll just solidify any accusations being spoken about me behind my back. Im obviously the talk of my old congregation because i went for a drink with an old work friend (we had two pints each). Only, my mother and sisters heard that i was "getting drunk with worldly ones". There's a difference. But i didn't go there. (Isn't gossiping, malicious rumors and back-biting what we're supposed to be doing?)