Posts by pale.emperor

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Young Ones Leaving

by pale.emperor in

in the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included).

as time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized.

of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized.

pale.emperor

@pale.emperor
May I ask, what area this is happening in?
I go to a Spanish Speaking congregation and I also see this happening.

Without giving away my old congregation, this is in the North West of the UK

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Young Ones Leaving

by pale.emperor in

in the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included).

as time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized.

of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized.

In the congregation that i grew up in there were about 30 children under 16 (myself included). As time went on they one by one slipped away from the meetings and most never got baptized. Of those 30 children only myself and two other girls stayed and got baptized. Of us three myself and one girl have "fell away".

So by the example 1 in 30 young ones actually stay in the organization. Wether the girl still in actually beleives it is another matter, she's married with children now so for all we know could be staying because she's comfortable. Comfort was the reason i stayed two years longer than i should have. I stopped believing it but carried on for two years because i didn't know anyone outside the JW religion.

So my old KH is full of old ones. New members that come in aren't young, they're 30yo+. I hear that this congregation is merging with another one because they very rarely fill even half the seats. My last congregation it's the same story. Only they're merging THREE congregations together.

I think it's a clear sign that the governing body have no idea how to keep young intelligent minds "in" this religion. So many rules to abide by that are unreasonable.

I was speaking to someone only yesterday about my old JW life and she was surprised that the little ones are supposed to sit there in meeting and conventions listening to the same thing as the adults. Nothing entertaining or exciting about it - even for adults.

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More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

by bohm in

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friends

the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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pale.emperor

Notice how the "wayward" child has a beard?

Ah yes, when a young one wakes up and leaves it's "them" thats the problem and the parents who are suffering. No one mentions that the poor lad may have been kicked out of the family home here.

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Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

by HereIgo in

i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

pale.emperor

I would blatantly make up hours on my slip. I did the same for my wife too (she never handed a report in, i'd do it for her).

I was doing about 5 hours a month (tops) but putting down 8 or 9. Never placed mags coz i never tried but i'd put something like 12 mags, 4 books.

I'd work with my brother in law or wife or mother in law and we'd just feather knock and walk slowly. It was an hour of hell and acting as if you were "into it" every time.

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Hello

by UnshackleTheChains in

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i decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.

there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.

i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.

pale.emperor

Hello UTC. Nice to have you here. There's some great people on here that have helped me since leaving. I look forward to your posts.

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

pale.emperor

Im growing marijuana. Got it down like a real science. Never used the stuff but for some reason growing it is so interesting and exciting for me.

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The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.

by Witness 007 in

what a horror.

instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.

anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?

pale.emperor

I married an elders daughter who had no idea what the religion is all about but somehow managed to get baptised. Marriage soured quickly due to her being a poster girl for gestapo type snitching they encourage you to do on your "loved ones". The only thing we had in common was that we were JWs. So since I faded she left. I'm now with a hot Portuguese girl that thinks I'm just the best thing in the world

59

Counting time

by Emma in

i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

pale.emperor

I remember when you couldn't count anything less than half an hour. Then they changed that rule to let you record 15mins. And lo and behold the number of hours shot up... it doesn't take a genius to realize that all those 15mins add up!!

Even when i was in i saw through that.

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

pale.emperor

When you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?

For me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew. I wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.

First things i did:

Joined the labour party

Read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

Read Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche

Caught the philosophy bug because of Nietzsche and read Sartre

Studied buddhism in a big way

Stopped praying before meals as i no longer believe in god/gods/goddesses (i still have to stop myself sometimes, it was so ingrained in my to pray before eating)

Watched the exorcist

Joined a life drawing class

Started studying for A levels

Charity work

It's safe to say that im a happier, more outgoing, more honest and content person since my exit. Even witnesses that are supposed to be shunning me have commented on the change in me. One even said "You look happy in this world. But arnt you sorry for leaving? You're acting like your not sorry." They're right. Im not sorry. Not at all.