From my JW days, not one JW would believe something like that. But, if Jehovah would do something like that he's incompetent... because Putin is i Moscow, not Kamchatka. And he's a dick because those poor people in Kamchatka who've lost their homes/lives had nothing to do with the JW ban.
pale.emperor
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Jehovah is sending a warning to Putin--so say jw's
by wannaexit indubs in a pro-jw forum are talking about the earthquake in kamchatka russia.
they are speculating that this is jehovah's warning to putin.
what kind of twisted logic is this?.
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tidbits from recent C.O. visit
by nowwhat? in"all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!
" in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.
"it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.
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pale.emperor
"All people in the world are currently considered enemies of God"
Which God? Thor? Wotan? Ba'el? Quetzalcoatl? Allah? Jesus? Or maybe the one in the old testament who says it's ok to stone people to death, ok to own slaves, ok to kill children when you invade a town that you want to steal from them. He sounds like quite a devil this "god" of yours.
"Jehovah's chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!"
Really? Any evidence to support this? You're hemorrhaging members, memorial partakers are going up and you're selling property to pay off child abuse victims.
"It used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs. At 75 pubs.we now merge them into one!! Again in what reality is that a good thing?"
How can that possibly be a good thing? If this happened to a local church you'd laugh at them for losing members and take it as proof that God is not there.
"Don't believe negative media reports!"
What, all of them? There's no terrorism? There's no famine? There's no war? Ok. Everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine...
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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pale.emperor
If it were me, i'd join another religion just to get him off my back. One that believes the bible. So he cant refute your bible based reasoning on a God of love, that there would be false prophets, that it doesn't matter if we live or die as long as we serve God in spirit and truth.
Of course im an atheist, so to me id just be playing the game.
The other day my Dad told me that I was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why I wasn't ready.
Erm... maybe because her decision is that she doesn't want to get baptized?
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NEW PUBLICATION!..... 'References for Life and Ministry Meeting Workbook'
by darkspilver inhaha!
yes folks!
it's an eight page printout from the cd-rom of the scriptures and wt reference for use during the midweek clam meeting.. 'references for life and ministry meeting workbook'.
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pale.emperor
I remember always being berated by my then girlfriend when i could never find Ecclesiastes. "It's after proverbs!!" she's angrily whisper to me and dig me in the side with her elbow. To be fair to her, to this day i never forget where Ecclesiastes is.
I remember when i first came to the KH with a kindle with all my books on there. I was the first one to use a tablet. The "cool" people thought it was a fad and im just showing off. Two elders almost demanded that i use actual books. One guy at the back in the middle of the meeting hissed to his wife "look! he's playing games!!" (i wasn't, i was just turning the page on the kindle).
Then it was announced that tablets are ok but DEFINITELY not on the platform. The reason being the the bible is "your sword".
Fast forward to now, almost no one in that hall uses paper mags and books anymore. No one on the platform does either.
So i like to think of myself as a trend setter
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The Latest Trend in NW England: Homeschooling Your Children
by pale.emperor ini dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally.
but im hearing more and more people i knew from my jw days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead.
in my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school.
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pale.emperor
Ive dated two girls who were home schooled. One was very nice but very shy (that could just be her personality though) the other was very bible toting and quoting scriptures like Rain Man... ask her about algebra or physics and she'd say it's not of any use in the real world.
BOTH were very touchy on the fact that they were home schooled. Only had to ask about it and they'd bite your head off and defend home schooling to the hilt and try to prove to you that they're not stupid.
I dont think home schooling in itself is bad. JRR Tolkein was homeschooled and he was a very very clever man. But it's not in every stay at home JW mother to teach her kids. Or dad.
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'Asking Questions' & JC's
by Tallon inon another forum, a user posted that their partner is being hauled before a jc for asking questions and, that the jc will go ahead regardless if in attendance or not.. the post does not say what questions were being asked.
another user responded with - possibly viewed as 'brazen conduct'.
here is the link to jw.org - brazen conduct: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-glossary/brazen-conduct/.
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pale.emperor
It would entirely depend on the elders holding the JC. Only in a cult would asking questions be considered a sin. They'll try to ascertain if the person is asking questions to cause doubts or is genuinely seeking answers from "gods word".
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Special Video to be shown this week?
by neat blue dog ini heard that there is supposed to be a video shown in all congregations this week, preempting the local needs part .
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anybody heard this?.
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pale.emperor
Could someone direct me to the site where we get to watch these videos before the congregations do?
Only way im stepping foot inside a Kingdom Hall again is to cover the walls in petrol before i light it up.
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The Latest Trend in NW England: Homeschooling Your Children
by pale.emperor ini dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally.
but im hearing more and more people i knew from my jw days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead.
in my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school.
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pale.emperor
I dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally. But im hearing more and more people i knew from my JW days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead. In my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school. It gets me worried. Educating children is a specialized field. Not everyone can do it or is up to it. I dont know how my sister is doing it. When i asked my sister why she's taken her children out she replied "The world is so bad now. And they wont finish school anyway because armageddon will be here by then". I reminded her that we both said that in 1989 when we were their age.
I heard yesterday that two families from my old congregation have taken their kids out of school too.
Going to mainstream school is, in my opinion, a must. Not just because they have actual trained educators that will teach our children, but also the child learns social skills with classmates in the playground and makes friends.
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Aren't you a bit amazed that the WTS/JWS is still around ?
by Finkelstein ini know i am, to me its a bit of a peculiar anomaly that the wts is still around and functioning in reflection of its decades and now complete century that the wts has been bullshitting to people .
organizations like the church of god have shrunk dramatically from its heyday of the 1980's, this too was another organization that spread and grew by publishing its own magazine proclaiming a armageddon soon doctrine and its main publication was called " the truth " .
i'm guessing some of this has to do with the fact that people who get lured into this cult aren't aware of its past, its doctrines, the people who started it and so forth.
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pale.emperor
I think people are just coasting a long now, especially the younger generation. The older ones have invested too much time and energy to call it quits. From my own experience, i can see a number of ones a few years younger than me that are just waiting for their parents to die so they can stop going to the meetings. I look at my old KH and wonder who is going to be the next elders? There's very few young ones and virtually no young people are being converted.
Was speaking to my ex yesterday while we were taking our daughter to a hospital appointment. It struck me that i never noticed before how often she uses the phrase "we're not allowed..." or "are we allowed such and such?"
Allowed? You're a grown woman. Decide for yourself.
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Inactive Witness Preaches To Me Today
by pale.emperor ina rather bizzare situation, this morning.
i was taking my daughter to the park, as i walk past a row of shops a car horn beeps and shouts me.
i turn round and see a car in a disabled parking space with a guy who used to go to my hall smiling and waving to me.
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pale.emperor
A rather bizzare situation, this morning. I was taking my daughter to the park, as i walk past a row of shops a car horn beeps and shouts me. I turn round and see a car in a disabled parking space with a guy who used to go to my hall smiling and waving to me. I approached an made pleasantries. This guy hasn't been to a meeting in over a year. He's very nice all the same. First thing he says to me is "i hear you've fell away now?" i said yes and that i don't believe it anymore. He then started to preach to me about "the truth" and "you know its the truth" and "people are imperfect, we all make mistakes".
I explained about the royal commission, he had no idea what i was talking about.
I explained that i strongly disagree with shunning and he said "at the end of the day Jesus died for us". I said thats all very well but that doesn't me the JW's have the truth. Catholics, Protestants, Lutherans, Adventists etc all believe in Jesus. He started to go on a bit about how i should read more of the JW books. I said i have and that's precisely what made me leave.
I didnt want to argue, because he's actually a really nice fellow. So i said it was nice to see him and asked what he's up to today. He said "im just taking the wife shopping. Parked up here to put a bet on (we were outside a book makers)" - the irony!!
Said our goodbyes, shook hands and i left.
Most bizarre. He's committing a DFing offense right there and still preaching to me?