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  March broadcast - Tightpants Tony wants to be filmed in action

  by sir82 in

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  did anyone else notice this?.

  tony tightpants has the "morning worship" featurette in the march jw broadcast.. he appears to be hoping that someone will be videotaping the slaughter of 7 billion men, women, and children at armageddon.. quote is something like "we have some really good videographers here at bethel, but i don't think even they could capture what will happen.

  still, all things are possible with god..." (not exact, but that is the gist).. and of course morris imagines himself as one of the "anointed", who will be the ones, per wt doctrine, to conduct the slaughter.. it takes a special kind of hubris, arrogance, and sadism to wish that you yourself could be filmed in the act of slaughtering billions of people.. i've encountered a lot of jws with "dark souls", but based on his public comments, i'd say morris has teh blackest one i've seen.. if he says stuff like this for broadcast to 8 million + jws, what does he say in private?

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  Imagine having him as your father in law.
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  Awake No. 2 2019 - Way To Destroy Your Childrens Hopes And Dreams Watchtower!

  by pale.emperor in

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  not that i spend much time on the cult's website, but i like to skim through their latest propaganda to make sure i'm up to date with their nuttiness.

  (and when i say skim, i mean just that.

  the wafer thin, dumbed down content can be read in like 2 mins flat).. i just had to share my thoughts on the above piece of trash.. no.

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  Not that I spend much time on the cult's website, but I like to skim through their latest propaganda to make sure I'm up to date with their nuttiness. (And when I say skim, I mean just that. The wafer thin, dumbed down content can be read in like 2 mins flat).

  I just had to share my thoughts on the above piece of trash.

  No. 2 2019 | Six Lessons Children Need to Learn

  According to Watchtower, children need to be:

  • Controlled (?!!)
    

  • Humble

  • Resilient

  • Responsible

  • Mature

  • Honest

    The one that jumped from the page the most though was when they discussed the subject of "Humility". It reads:

    WHAT IS HUMILITY?
    
    Humble people are respectful. They do not behave arrogantly, nor do they expect others to treat them as special. Rather, a person with humility takes genuine interest in others and is willing to learn from them.
    
    Sometimes humility is misjudged as a weakness. In reality, it is a strength that helps people recognize their faults and acknowledge their limitations.

    
    WHY IS HUMILITY IMPORTANT?
    
    Humility benefits relationships. “Overall, humble people are more connected to others,” says the book The Narcissism Epidemic. It adds that such people find it “easier to relate to other people and the wider world.”
    
    Humility benefits your child’s future. Learning to be humble will help your child both now and later in life​—for example, when seeking employment. “The young person with bloated self-esteem, unaware of her own deficiencies, is unlikely to do well in the job interview,” writes Dr. Leonard Sax. “But the young person who is genuinely interested in what the recruiter has to say is more likely to get the job.” *

    Now this is where it gets culty:
    
    

    HOW TO TEACH HUMILITY
    
    Encourage a balanced view of self.
    
    BIBLE PRINCIPLE: “If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he is deceiving himself.”​—Galatians 6:3.
    
    Avoid misleading maxims. Sayings like “All your dreams can come true” and “You can be anything that you want to be” might sound inspiring, but they often do not prove true in real life. Your children will likely be more successful if they have reasonable goals and work hard to achieve them.

    Yes, according to Watchtower, if your children have any hopes and dreams it's best to just dash those hopes and dreams to pieces and remind them that they're not special or unique at all.
    
    

    Praise specific actions. Simply telling a child that he or she is “awesome” does not encourage humility. Be specific.
    
    Limit your child’s use of social media. Often, social media is linked with self-promotion​—broadcasting a person’s talents and accomplishments—​the very opposite of humility.
    
    Encourage your child to apologize quickly. Help your child to see where he is wrong and to acknowledge it.
    
    Promote gratitude.
    
    BIBLE PRINCIPLE: “Show yourselves thankful.”​—Colossians 3:15.
    
    Gratitude for creation. Children should appreciate nature and how much we depend on it for survival. We need air to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat. Use these examples to instill appreciation, awe, and gratitude for the wonders of the natural world.
    
    Gratitude for people. Remind your child that everyone is superior to him in one way or another and that instead of being jealous of others’ skills and abilities, he can learn from them.

    What the actual fuck?
    
    

    Expressing gratitude. Teach your children to say “thank you,” not just with words but with genuine appreciation. A grateful spirit has been called a building block of humility.
    
    Teach your children that there is value in serving others.
    
    BIBLE PRINCIPLE: “With humility consider others superior to you, as you look out not only for your own interests, but also for the interests of others.”​—Philippians 2:3, 4.
    
    Expect your child to do chores. Exempting your child from family chores might give him the message, ‘You are too important to do this!’ Family duties should come first, and playing second. Point out how chores benefit others and how others will appreciate and respect him for doing them.
    
    Emphasize that serving others is a privilege. Doing so is a primary way to develop maturity. Therefore, encourage your child to identify those in need. Discuss with him what he can do to help them. Commend and support your child as he serves others.
    

    I wonder where they expect the child to serve?... I think we all know the answer to that one.

    https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no2-2019-jul-aug/how-to-be-humble/
    
    
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  Is The Watchtower Society Just Copying The Mormon's Model?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  when i was a faithful jw i was pretty much obsessed with the mormon religion.

  to me it was like lord of the rings.

  i knew the characters, the history, the events, the joseph smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and i long suspected even then that the watchtower society has been copying certain things from the lds church.. for example, the first thing i noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started.

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  ...and they could learn a great deal about raising money.

  Watch this space, Slim. It's long been my suspicion that they'll introduce tithing eventually. They'll need to in order to survive. Although they'll maybe call it by another name. They're already doing something similar by forcing the congregation to pay a lump sum each month after "lovingly cancelling their loans".
  
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  Is The Watchtower Society Just Copying The Mormon's Model?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was a faithful jw i was pretty much obsessed with the mormon religion.

  to me it was like lord of the rings.

  i knew the characters, the history, the events, the joseph smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and i long suspected even then that the watchtower society has been copying certain things from the lds church.. for example, the first thing i noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started.

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  When I was a faithful JW I was pretty much obsessed with the Mormon religion. To me it was like Lord Of The Rings. I knew the characters, the history, the events, the Joseph Smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and I long suspected even then that the Watchtower society has been copying certain things from the LDS church.

  For example, the first thing I noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started. The Mormons have been doing Home Family Evening for decades before the JWs. https://www.lds.org/topics/family-home-evening/purpose?lang=eng&old=true

  And of course, the door knocking. Mormons have been doing this since the 1830s.

  When I was in, I used to openly say that the website (remember the old one) was rubbish and the Mormons had a slick, brilliant one with all their books and resources on there. Next thing you know JW. org comes along and their setup is almost identical.

  Then there's the silver edition of the NWT. The Book of Mormon starts each book with a quick rundown of what the book is about.

  
  

  The new silver edition of the NWT now does this too:

  
  

  Even the book cover has an identical style, different only in colour.

  

  
  

  It makes one wonder, if Jehovah really is leading the org why is he getting his ideas from the Mormons?
  
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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  My first thought was that little kids will be expected to watch this too. My nieces are 4-12yo, this’ll terrify them.

  But then I guess that’s their aim.
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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  If you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in Lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-K5Wo

  I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

  They're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas.
  
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  Living Authentically

  by pale.emperor in

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  my latest following on youtube- crashcourse.

  this one is on existentialism.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yadvrdlmkhs.

  i swear if i'd seen this video in my youth i likely would never have got baptized.

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  So, where does Love fit into this picture?

  Not the kind of love most of us encounter which is self-serving or manipulative; but True Love without strings or judgment?

  We all know we want it. We seem to be wired for it. Yet, it never seems to find its way into such discussion

  One could argue that the thing we call "love" has an evolutionary benefit to our species. The assurance that I'm going to protect my young and ensure my genes are passed on. It sounds cold, but that's one explanation. Sometimes there isn't a reason for anything. I cant being myself to say "love exists, therefore god".
  
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  Living Authentically

  by pale.emperor in

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  my latest following on youtube- crashcourse.

  this one is on existentialism.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yadvrdlmkhs.

  i swear if i'd seen this video in my youth i likely would never have got baptized.

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  My latest following on YouTube- CrashCourse. This one is on Existentialism.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaDvRdLMkHs
  

  I swear if I'd seen this video in my youth I likely would never have got baptized. Living authentically is the way to go. I needed to hear this years ago!
  
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  The Latest Thing Waking People Up...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.

  also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.

  active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.

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  I think this is why the org has shifted from "we're the happiest people on earth" to just feeding them paranoia about armageddon being "imminent" (wasn't it always?). Because they're not happy. And it's hard to pretend that you are happy nowadays in the org. Depression is now "to be expected" in "this system".
  
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  Ignorance of Watchtower doctrine among young JW's

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.

  if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.

  it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.

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  I actually believed the same when I was a member. It wasn't until I was waking up that it was pointed out to me on JWFacts.

  I do think that most JWs still think this because lately the literature doesn't come out and so it so clearly. When in doubt, they refer to their website's FAQ which tiptoes around the issue and doesn't give a straight answer, instead explaining that there will be "worldly" people resurrected in the new system.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/

  Notice the question is worded about being "saved" not surviving Armageddon.