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  Scowled At By A JW

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
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  yesterday i got home from work and decided to buy a case of beer because, why not?

  it’s monday.

  the shop is conveniently round the corner from my place.

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  I'm sure Paley is rushing to go back to meetings now. I know I would be.

  I'll never set foot in a Kingdumb Hell again. Not for my own mothers funeral, not for anything.
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  When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

  ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

  i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

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  I was only 11 when the 95 generation change came in, as such, I dont remember it.

  For me, it was turning the page in our study books and seeing this...

  

  That was the beginning of the end for pale.emperor. I tried to explain it away by convincing myself that surely this is a temporary "idea" and new light will come in soon to correct it, right?....... right?
  
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  Looking back at the people I knew in the Jobos.....

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  ...there are very few if any, that i would have willingly associated with.. my 'worldly(tm)' friends are all brilliant people.

  they are nothing like the weirdos i had to put up with in the congregations.. what is your take on the people in the jobos as opposed to your associates now?.

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  Oh god, there’s loads of people I would never associate with in the real world.

  Since leaving I made it a rule to raise my standards of who I associate with. Closed minded people are out. As are homophobes and people who go out of their way to remain miserable.

  Some of the asshats I used to associate with in the congregations over the years:

  A guy who used to get very annoyed at other guys who managed to get girlfriends. He was a joy to be around as you can tell.

  A family who used to turn up to conventions in African clothes. And they weren’t even African. They were white.

  A girl who went to university in secret while her elder daddy told others she was only doing an apprentiship while pioneering where the need is great. (In Hull?)
  

  There were some (some) who were great people and I hope they leave so they can enjoy the real world. My ex-brother in law or example and some friends from my late teens.
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  Scowled At By A JW

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i got home from work and decided to buy a case of beer because, why not?

  it’s monday.

  the shop is conveniently round the corner from my place.

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  Yesterday I got home from work and decided to buy a case of beer because, why not? It’s Monday. The shop is conveniently round the corner from my place. In I go full of the joys of December and there’s a JW woman from my last congregation. You know the type. Divorced her non-JW husband, he got the kids because the courts “obviously” had it in for JWs. She’s been hunting for an elder to marry since then and is the go-to person for gossip or finding out why someone got disfellowshipped.

  Typical me, being a human being, does what anyone would do. I recognise a face, my mind doesn’t register who it is so I smile and say “Hi!” as I walk past. Her reaction can only be described as a scowl. Imagine shining a flashlight into a dark room filled with rats who cant stand the light. That sort of scowl. Then it registered who she was.

  I head to the beer aisle. She watches with a face like a smacked ass. I go to the checkout and she’s on the phone talking to someone while looking at me.

  I’m polite and friendly to the staff, they all know me because I’m there so often. Only this old cow is the one miserable this December.

  I’ll be the talk of the Thursday meeting :) Except by the time it reaches their ears the story will be I was buying booze, condoms and cigarettes while having white powder under my nose after snorting it off a prostitutes ass.

  ………………….I hope.
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  'Experiences(tm)'! Made up or totally true??

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.

  however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.

  i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.

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  How many times did we hear "a friend of a friend" has this occasion happen to them where a JW woman called on a rapists door but he left her alone because he (allegedly) saw "two big men standing with her" who were "obviously" angels?

  Fortunately, the man went and raped the next non-JW visitor who called instead. How on earth that's a nice story I'll never know.

  That same story appears in other relgions and even on Snopes. But I heard it in the 1980s.

  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alley-oops/
  
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  3 New Letters Arrived!--2019-December!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
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  2019 december brd newsletter.

  https://docdro.id/odvxhqr.

  2019-s-1-e-congregation field service and meeting attendance report.

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  Few things here...

  Qualifications for Public Speakers: At a future elders’ meeting, the body of elders should review the list of public speakers in the congregation. Only qualified speakers who are approved by the body of elders should give public talks. (sfl chap. 20 par. 1) A qualified public speaker teaches effectively from the Scriptures, makes the practical value clear, and reaches the heart of his listen-ers. (Neh. 8:8; Luke 24:32) The body of elders may decide that an elder who cares for assignments on the midweek meeting does not qualify to give public talks. In some cases, an elder with limited abilities may be approved to give public talks in his congregation, but he would not qualify to be a visiting speaker. In such cases, he would modestly decline personal invitations to give talks in other congregations. The body of elders should use balance and good judgment as they prayerfully consider the abilities of each brother. All elders, including those who presently do not qualify for certain teaching privileges, should take the initiative to approach the auxiliary counselor and make good use of the Teaching brochure to improve their teaching skills.

  So they've been appointing elders who have no teaching ability. Well, we all knew they were scraping the barrell due to no "young ones" reaching out anymore.

  Used Circuit Vehicles: Vehicles previously used by circuit overseers will now be made available for sale via the WTResource.com website.

  Are they that strapped for cash? Used car sales? Seriously? Sheesh.

  These are not the signs of a religion that's doing well.
  
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  Have you heard of a Jehovah's Witness on federal SSDI disability Pioneering ? How common is this ?

  by BottleGate_ in

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  2. scandals

  asking 4 a friend.

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  I know of a handful.

  One girl I was dating, her dad (an elder who claimed to be anointed) was off work and receiving benefits for M.E. (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome). Yet played cricket and football with the brothers every weekend and full-time pioneered.

  https://www.meaction.net/about/what-is-me/

  I think, in his case, he was/is actually depressed but doesn't know it.
  
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  2034 - A Future History of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.

  back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.

  those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.

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  I remember one rather geeky JW who was a friend of a friend who (along with his father) “proved conclusively” that Armageddon would come within the next 5 years. He had mathematical charts with equations and squiggles and diagrams and scriptures and everything. It was quite impressive.

  That was 11 years ago.

  
  
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  Going in different directions

  by dothemath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  was visiting with some old friends a while ago, and got to hear some interesting updates about their congregation.. there is a new family moved in, from the ukraine, and are very zealous.

  when giving their experience (they're quite new in the "truth") they feel strongly that the religion has changed their life.. they were ready to divorce, but from studying the bible, etc., they are now a happy family.. its really a yearbook type example that make a lot witnesses feel vindicated.. on the other extreme, in the same congregation, a teenager just graduating (an elders son) just up and left and moved in with a "worldly" family.

  he told his parents he doesn't believe it's the truth, and actually believes in evolution.. he was being "encouraged" to get baptized, but he managed to avoid that.

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  I wonder did he leave of his own accord or was he given an ultimatum ?

  Maybe he knew it would be intolerable for him to stay in the same household and chose to leave.

  I hate the fact that parents kick out their offspring simply because they do not want to be JW`s ,to me that is another form of child abuse.

  Even if my family would talk to DF'd/DA'd ones I'd find their company to be toxic. So judgemental, closed minded and paranoid about the outside world it'd just frustrate me.
  
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  Gangs brawl in a Birmingham Cinema UK

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10409135/birmingham-star-city-fight-evacuated-blue-story-gang/.

  i don't normally bother with the gutter press, but this was interesting.. what they didn't show was that the faces of the kids, probably due to their age.. i saw the picture before it was pixelled out.

  interesting that the kids with the machettes looked like members of the religion of peace.. just sayin'.. interesting to see what low life scum the film was about.. good grief, can't the jobos be right and armageddon(tm) come?.

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  pale.emperor

  All cultures are not the same. Our culture is vastly superior.

  I'm gonna have to start using this. That's an excellent statement.