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  Bethel should be considered bad

  by dbq407 in

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  from what i was told, we don't celebrate birthdays because the only two times it is mentioned in the bible, bad things happened.

  so if the wt wants to set standards by the "two bad things" rule, then why do they use the name bethel?

  i've read two instances in the bible where bad things happened there.

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  dbq407

  From what i was told, we don't celebrate birthdays because the only two times it is mentioned in the bible, bad things happened. So if the WT wants to set standards by the "two bad things" rule, then why do they use the name Bethel? I've read two instances in the bible where bad things happened there. The one in 1 kings

  28c The king took counsel, made two calves of gold, and said to the people: “You have been going up to Jerusalem long enough. Here are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt.” 29d And he put one in Bethel, the other in Dan.*

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  23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

  24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

  
  

  
  

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  Awake 1973 ="Chess causes family fights and is a game of War not for Witnesses!!"

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  most brothers are shocked when i tell them chess is banned because it's un-wholesome!.

  awake 1973 3/22 p.12 ..."the spirit of competition between players can lead to unpleasant circumstances...most families manage to keep the conflicts that arise in a game to the chess board.

  but, in some homes tensions linger long past "checkmate.

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  Did anyone notice a recent statement in the watchtower? I wonder how many elders,co's, pioneers go home and watch football every sunday? Almost everyone in my hall and every hall i've ever been to watch one sport or another. And here they use the word SHUN, but who actually does? When we got to this paragraph in the WT study no one even commented on this. Big surprise!
  

  • Is Your Conscience a Reliable Guide? (‎2 occurrences)

  • • 5:19-21) Accordingly, we can ask ourselves: ‘Does my conscience move me to shun sports that are aggressive, competitive, nationalistic, or violent?

    • w15 9/15 pp. 8-12 - The Watchtower—2015
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  Did I imagine a brief thaw in the Watchtower injunction against going to university?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay i was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and i should have listened to the society and not gone.

  but i said that when i went to university the watchtower was saying it might not be a bad idea to go to, as long as you do it for the "right reasons", don't associate with worldly people, and keep clear of "damaging ideas".

  but basically they said it was okay, in this "changing world" and job market to go to university.

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  A recent watchtower cover had what looked to be a JW college student preaching. I thought there would be an article in the watchtower about the cover but there was none. Maybe they will slowly introduce that its ok to go to college now. Hard to say with these a$$holes.

  link to watchtower cover:
  

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2015609
  
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  Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed

  by Phaedra in

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  yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..

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  That is sickening to hear they are planning on giving it all to the society. My grandma has donated to them for the last 40 years and now that she is in a nursing home, they haven't given her a dollar to help her out, they leave that up to the family or the state, just like they always have and always will do.
  
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  Does this sound like a man who is inspired by God?

  by Coded Logic in

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  absolutely disgusting!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.

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  I love how they use science to back up their god awful reasonings sometimes, but most the times, scientists are always wrong when it interferes with what they think the bible teaches.
  
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  What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

  by Dunedain in

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  i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

  its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

  satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

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  After supposedly what Satan and his demons did you would think they'd been disfellowshipped and god wouldn't have allowed them in heaven all those years.
  
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  Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand

  by Listener in

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  2. bible

  some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.

  the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.

  they are real wankers ;)..

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  Interesting how none of the publications on their online library go back further than the year 2000. Just like they have always done, they try to bury their past publications because they prove they are liars.
  
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  Recent announcement on literature placements

  by dbq407 in

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  i find it interesting that the other night they announced that literature is not to be left indiscriminately.

  they said to only leave literature if the householder engages you in conversation.

  it used to be that they would try to get any literature into every hand of every person.

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  I find it interesting that the other night they announced that literature is not to be left indiscriminately. They said to only leave literature if the householder engages you in conversation. It used to be that they would try to get any literature into every hand of every person. Even leaving magazines in the doors when no one was home. They must really be trying to cut back on expenses if they are wanting to only leave literature with people who will have a conversation.

  Also they are redoing the monthly publisher cards to include placements such as: videos shown at the door, videos emailed to others, anything published by the wtbs will be considered a placement (tracts).

  So what i gathered was that they can print and place less material, but keep their supposed numbers of placement up by counting videos emailed, or watched, or downloaded from their website. Oh boy, i can see the placement numbers increasing now! Laughable really.
  
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  Are we participants in this forum because of bouts of "loneliness"?

  by Wonderment in

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  2. experiences

  i wonder how many of us here hold on to this meeting place out of "loneliness.

  could it be that we harbor feelings of "abandonment" and "loneliness" from being left cold and dry by the wt people and our families?

  perhaps we do have a need to reach out to people with similar experiences.

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  I come here to find out what the WTBS is trying to hide from their members....which turns out to be quite a lot.
  
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  Decrease of numbers in Jehovah's Witnesses via Deaths, DFings, or Turning Inactive

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  so i'm sure a good number of us saw the chart that i believe the poster splash put on another thread of figures since 1990 regarding how many baptized and % of increase each year .

  i started analyzing it ( and i know some referred to it briefly on the other thread ) and guessing of reasons the % of increase didn't match the number of newly baptized.

  and of course common sense tells us that either jw's leave the cult each year through death, fading into inactivity, or getting dfed.

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  I remember at assemblies and conventions it used to be 15-20 baptized at assemblies and up to 60 at conventions. Now we have had 0-4 baptized at assemblies and I'm not sure at the conventions since i haven't been to one the past two years.