Heartsafire

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  Chatted with an old JW friend

  by Driving Force in

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  df.

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  Heartsafire

  Driving Force, that's quite a conversation! I think u may have woken up your friend or planted a seed. And hey, I didn't even know the Borg bought shares in porn industry and weapons?! I think I'd like those docs for my personal collection. Got a link for that?
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  My Bethel Experience Part 7

  by new boy in

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  besides the about 48 hours you worked there a week, you would have other duties too.

  there was dish duties.

  then you had the night watchmen duties.........once every 2-3 years in the home, you pulled an all night watchman duty.

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  New boy, I have been gobbling up these bethel stories. I don't want them to end! Several close friends and family of mine are/were in bethel. People don't always share their stories, but when they do I am never disappointed. Please tell me you have a part 8.

  HAF
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  Watchtowers policy of shunning our own close relatives

  by Truthexplorer in

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  having looked over the february' 2016 wt study article ' learn from jehovah's loyal servants' and meditating on the 'advice' from the fds aka gb regarding the shunning of our own close relatives if they have been disfellowshipped.

  the example in par 7 highlighting how a woman called anne shuns her own mother for 'as she says' cutting herself off from jehovah.

  i can't help but wonder how audacious and wreckless watchtower is in writing this stuff.

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  You would think these fear tactics would grow stale with the r&f. Shun your mother? What parents want their children thinking this is divine guidance from God? Sickening.
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  Wt says show principal love by shunning fellow humans.

  by poopie in

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  thoughts

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  Heartsafire

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  The story of my exit

  by mrsObfuscate in

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  i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.

  i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .

  my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.

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  Welcome Mrs Obfuscate! I enjoyed reading your personal story very much. My favorite part was when you found ttatt and enrolled in University. Also, thanks for that direct ARC link.

  HAF
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  Rivalry among the sisters

  by Esmeralda001 in

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  when i was first introduced to the "truth", i was so distracted by the love and affection that the members were showing me that i was ready to convert into the religion without thinking twice.

  i was conviced that jws were god's people (i still think some of them are).

  i made it my goal to get baptized as i wanted to be part of the "only" religion that produce such good people.

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  Heartsafire

  With "friends" like the sisters in the KH, who needs enemies, right? I quit playing their games long ago. Gave up on that whole mess. I've never been super close with the sisters as I could see it was all a game early on. Ask any Bethelite about the older sisters at Bethel. You know, the wives of the "lifers". They have their own category of meanness altogether. Lol.

  Good for you on wearing your MK stuff. I like Mk brand too. He makes an amazing wedge and his saffiano leather bags last a lifetime. If any sister is hassling you over your clothes, consider it a compliment as they most likely are jealous:-).
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  So, Christimas....

  by Phaedra in

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  love the music.color, season's greetings, etc.

  even have a desktop tree.. neighbors on the block are all lit up (since thanksgiving = awesome!).

  the colors are gorgeous!.

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  Merry Christmas! Happy New Year too!

  Isn't it crazy what we go through to gain the freedom to say that? This year I'm doing as much as I can to bring the joy of the season to my husband without tripping his jdubb meter. So far, so good.
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  The KEY WORD in Isaiah 44:25-26 is "Predictions" and the apostles NEVER made any predictions setting dates.

  by Greybeard in

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  isaiah 44:25-26, i am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, and i am the one who makes diviners act like fools; the one confounding the wise men and turning their knowledge into foolishness; the one making the word of his servant come true and completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers.

  the record shows your words and many predictions did not come true.

  again, the key word in isaiah 44:25-26 is "predictions" and the apostles never made any predictions ever.

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  Greybeard, thank you! I have a private journal that I keep specifically to record anything that I find incriminating about the WT. This info went into it. Whenever I start to doubt my distrust of the Org, all I have to do is pull out my journal and the evidence is blatant. Thanks again.
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  How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

  the un membership.

  the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

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  When I found out about the UN scandal, and I actually read the Bible without a WT around, I remember feeling like the missing pieces were finally coming together. Everything fell into place. The weird feelings and unease I had felt as a JW began to make a lot of sense and be verified. For years I thought that I was the only one on earth that noticed things weren't peachy in JW land. Ttatt validated me in the sense that I realized my suspicions were right all along.
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  "High" education

  by Esmeralda001 in

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  did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

  if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

  are you happy with the end result?

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  Heartsafire

  In highschool, I got a scholarship, but my parents were totally against higher education. It wasn't until years later, as a grown adult, that I was able to save my pennies and pay my way through college.

  I got a degree, and although I haven't had much use for it, I have to say I would not trade that college education for ANYTHING. I learned more in those few years of college than decades spent sitting in the meetings reading JW literature. I learned that WT does little to support their views except to present straw man arguments and twist the statements of third parties. I also learned to research facts for myself.

  I did meet with some opposition from JWs who knew I was going to school. My parents, for one, were less than thrilled, and thought college would destroy my love of God. A couple of sisters counseled me that an education in the troof was better than in the world. For the most part, I just kept my education to myself, and told people I was "working" which was true.

  Now looking back, I would do it again, and I wish I had the time to get a PHD. Maybe in the future.

  I do recommend college to everyone I know--including kids and even my family. The more people understand the realities of world they live in, the less inclined they are to accept illogical info shoved down their throat.