Rebel, good point. I agree that people are often looking for support and understanding more than anything. Whenever I post a comment I try to be as respectful and understanding as possible. If I find I can't comment on a debate without getting all worked up, than I simply won't post or I wait until Ive chilled out and can post a comment without biting off someone's head.
Heartsafire
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Is this a site controlled by atheists?
by The Rebel inunder the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.
i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.
my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?
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Is this a site controlled by atheists?
by The Rebel inunder the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.
i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.
my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?
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Heartsafire
I noticed right away that atheists on this site have no problem presenting their point of view. I don't think this is done out of a desire to stamp out belief in god so much as it is an invitation to believers to open their minds to new explanations supported by logic.
When you are the type of JW who has been having to suppress your desire to explore topics such as evolution or the OT books being folktales a site like this one can be enlightening.
I'm still a believer to an extent, but I no longer feel the need to use that belief as an emotional crutch or an explanation for why everything exists in the world.
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2nd amendment right ... where should it end?
by Simon inone thing i like to do to test a theory is to take things to extremes or to their logical conclusion to see if the premises still hold.
very often, a claim that seems to make sense at a superficial level falls apart when you start to stretch it a little.. so let's play a game.. suppose the 2nd amendment is valid, that some "well regulated militia" really is necessary to hold the government to account.. obviously when this was drafted the government had access to the weapons of it's day which would be muskets!
so muskets all round.
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The second amendment is somewhat ambiguous as to the specific types of weapons a citizen may own by merely stating one has the right to "bear arms". Much law is written this way because it leaves room for further expansion and interpretation as time goes by.
To answer your question, Simon, I do think that if we could correctly interpret the Second Amendment as it was intended (to avoid a monarchical rule such as the new nation had just escaped from) then yes, citizens would be allowed to own tanks, rocket launchers, missiles, etc. Obviously, your point that the SA is antiquated due to the development of weaponry never fathomed at the time of the founding fathers is a good one and a valid point because it isn't possible for any citizen to own most of the weaponry it would take to stop the US government should the government decide to, oh I don't know, let's say go SS and round up a race of people for death camps? It may sound far fetched, but the possibility of this occurring most likely scares more citizens than the threat of Joe Hillbilly shooting them.
Here's my personal take on this--I do believe in better gun control, but private ownership is an important thing to so many Americans that it shouldn't be abolished.
In today's world, technology/computers/hacking is really one of the most powerful weapons both for protection against a corrupt government and for the governments protection. But that's just how I see it.
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Jehovah`s Witnesses an Old Testament Religion
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses claim to be a christian religion , however looking at their history , publications ,such as the watchtower and awake mags., their conventions ,international ,regional ,local ,etc.their books pamphlets ,brochures ,etc.etc.
you are hard pressed to find references to the new testament and references to jesus and his ministry .. they seem to be more focused on the old testament , and the god of the old testament.jehovah.
even in their dramas at conventions , international and local events they are pre-occupied with old testament accounts and experiences , and not christian experiences , examples or ,lives to emulate .. they claim to be a christian religion and very seldom do they highlight the name of jesus , or his teachings , they are fixed on the old testament name of jehovah , and what he did in the old testament.
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Smiddy, I too have always been baffled by the unyielding hyper-focus on OT especially when it comes to Jewish laws that somehow correspond with what WT wants people to do.
Years ago I began to wonder why we never talked about worshipping Christ if we claim to be Christians. I read in the now out of print reasoning book that it is okay to worship Christ, yet that point is never discussed from the KH platform in depth, but of course, Jesus is just an angel, remember? Ugh.
The org is neither Christian nor following Jewish law as it was intended to be followed. It's a weird conglomeration of a controlling business that poses as religion and interprets scripture however the GB wishes.
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The memorial beauty pageant
by BlackWolf insince the memorial is coming up soon and its about time for me to go shopping for a new memorial ( aka easter) dress, i've realized what the memorial really is for us teenage girls, a beauty pageant!
the memorial is the day i spend painting my nails, curling my hair, and carefully applying makeup because my mother says i have to "represent jehovah" and look my best.
in reality its just to impress the newcomers and to compete with the other girls.
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Oh yes Black Wolf, I remember those days crystal clear. I was always the one who pushed the limit on my dresses. Skirts above the knees *gasp*.
Some of the worst are middle aged sisters who are trying to prove they still "got it" by showing up in a second hand store prom dress. Oh what these eyes have seen. Wish I could wash them out with soap:-P
TBH the sisters looking like frumpy Amish are no better. I'm tempted to show up in a pantsuit this year. Maybe in a skinny suit!
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The people are mobilizing Mr Drumpf
by Simon inprotesters shut down a trump rally.
massive numbers of people are out in chicago and have shut his event down.
there were scuffles inside the event.. despite his lame attempt to pretend the violence he instigates is nothing to do with him it's clear that it is as the cnn quotes during the last event showed only too well.. this doesn't happen at anyone else's events - candidates have even given up the stage to protesters, not called for them to be beaten and punched.. trump is an ugly person and this is just a small taste of what a future under his rule would be like.. shame on the gop for not kicking his ass out.
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2nd amendment right ... where should it end?
by Simon inone thing i like to do to test a theory is to take things to extremes or to their logical conclusion to see if the premises still hold.
very often, a claim that seems to make sense at a superficial level falls apart when you start to stretch it a little.. so let's play a game.. suppose the 2nd amendment is valid, that some "well regulated militia" really is necessary to hold the government to account.. obviously when this was drafted the government had access to the weapons of it's day which would be muskets!
so muskets all round.
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Would you have married your spouse if you weren't both JWs?
by 3rdgen inok, i've had some wine, but i'm curious.
objectively speaking, but for the religion, did you have enough in common with your spouse to have met and married as non believers?
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There is no way on earth my husband would have married me if I wasn't a JW. If we weren't JW's I probably would've married him (the religion thing wasn't a factor for me), but the sad part is that he lied about himself all through our dating. He told me he wanted a family and kids--nope! He said he loves camping and the outdoors--hell no! He claimed he respected women--not a chance! I'm really bitter over my marriage lately. I feel totally duped.
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TALKING NONSENSE by using words attached to nothing
by Terry inespecially in listening to people who "believe" things (spirituality, faith, etc.
) do i hear words being used which are nonsense.. i'm a person who cherishes words in a weird, almost fetishistic way :)i discovered this quite young.
i was drawn to complicated word patterns and liked to repeat them.
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Heartsafire
Terry,
I rather enjoyed this post. I dare say you have the most colorful vocabulary of any poster on this forum. Love the quotes:)
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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me
by elderess inonly a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
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Ok, I found your previous post about what was in that email. The whole Geoffrey Jackson lying to the ARC was a biggie for me too. This religion is such a sick cult. It's good to hear that you and your husband know ttatt and are making plans for your future:-).