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3jw.org - online Bible - New World Translation - Study Edition
by Esse quam videri ini went into jw.org to look up a scripture in the nwt and clicked on new world translation - study edition.
i wanted to go into the book of malachi.
the different bible books were laid in a grid pattern and i clicked on malachi.
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Does God hear the prayers of unbelievers?A stupid question you may say, but wait.
by James Mixon injonah 3:5-10 the people of nineveh prayed that nineveh might be spared.
god.
answer their prayer and god did not destroy the city.. mark 7:24-30 the gentile woman prayed that jesus would deliver her daughter.
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Perry
Of course God hears or is aware of all prayers, because he is God... omniscient. To suggest otherwise, is either an impossibility, or change in the nature of God as defined in the dictionary...and the bible for that matter.
Not only does God know everything now, he knows all things that will ever be known or discovered for all eternity.
But, if you are going to start praying again, I recommend brushing up on how God wants to be viewed and addressed now. Notice how God commands angels to worship Jesus and how he calls Jesus God.
Hebrews 1New King James Version (NKJV)
God’s Supreme Revelation
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
The Son Exalted Above Angels
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?And again:
“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7 And of the angels He says:
“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”8 But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
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A paradox or a contradiction? Titus 1:12
by James Mixon inpaul quoted a cretan who said, "cretans are always liars".. ok, if this was said by a cretan and cretans always lie, then he.
too was lying, but if this cretan was lying when he said cretans always lie,.
then cretans do not always lie and there is a lie in the scripture.
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Revised NWT...cross references...Has anyone noticed....?
by 4thgen injust let me say, i hate the gray bible.
when i read the revision of mal 3:10 and they included tithing, i almost vomited.
recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray bible.
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Perry
In the 1984 edition, it has the "soul" of the widow's child coming back into him when he was resurrected by Elijah in 1 Kings 17: 21-22.
In the 2013 edition of the NWT, it says his "life" came back into him.
The Hebrew word here is "nephesh" or "soul" in English.
Somebody at WT home office did not like this childs' soul coming back into his body when he was resurrected. So, they just changed it.
But we all have a soul that is eternal, which was made in the image of our eternal creator. The Watchtower doesn't like this fact either because it begs the question of WHERE that soul will spend eternity.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in
by Black Man inhaving now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.
like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.
you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.
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Perry
What Beth said.
It's not like Jesus didn't explicitly warn would-be victims of the Watchtower beforehand:
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers [or invisible]; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be - Mt. 24:26
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The massive gaping hole in Watchtower's understanding of Matthew 25:31-40
by Island Man in(matthew 25:31-40) .
.when the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.
32 all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
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It is apparently these non-christian sheep who will be alive on earth after Armageddon when the devil is abyssed - not christians. This will explain why there are still people on earth to be misled by Satan after the thousand years. Christians have "one hope" - the heavenly one. (Ephesians 4:4) Ignorant non christians who are righteously disposed and treat christians favorably, have the prospect of surviving Armageddon.
The basic scenario accepted by many, if not most Christians is that the rapture will come at Jesus appearing, where he meets the church (new covenant believers) "in the air". (not the 2nd coming, but getting close). This ends the "church age". Immediately after this, the rise of the anti-christ is seen with a number of wars and global destructions ensuing with the nation of Israel at the center of the controversies.
Armageddon is simply the final conflict that is used to defeat the Antichrist and the nations that support him as they gather to defeat the tiny nation of Israel for good.. At that time, Jesus is left as the sole world leader when they learn that Israel is a stone that cannot be moved.... "a stumbling block for all nations".
After the conflict, about a 1/3 of the earth's current population will still be left over from the wars of the Anti-Christ. Of these, those that were kind to the nation of Israel, "Christ's Brothers", will be allowed entry into Christ's Millennium reign. Those nations and peoples caught up in the irrational hatred of Israel and who worked for its demise, are not allowed to enter.
Note: Both groups are surprised that their fate is decided on how they treated Israel.
Remember, God still has a plan for Israel after the Church age is consummated. Romans 11:
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.......
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved,
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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Perry
I can't express how much everyone's well wishes mean to me. Thank You.
Now I have to break it to my kids when they get home from school.
We called my mom and dad about three months ago while we were driving. Dad declined to speak to me but mom did. Wife and kids were in the car and the call was on speaker. The last words we all heard my mom say was I love you.
They cannot take that away.
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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Perry
An old friend sent me a text while on my way to work this morning and told me. His dad was an elder and book-study conductor at our home when we were kids. He never got baptized and is thankful for it.
I immediately called my Dad. I asked him how he was doing. He said, "fine". Loooooong Pauuuuuuse.
I then asked, "how is Mom"?
He told me a few details in a very kind tone. Then he said he had to go because he was leading the group out this morning in field service. He did say that he was planning on sending me the memorial card to me in a few days.
That was it. My father has been a MS for decades. One older brother is an elder. One other older brother was a long-time elder but was deleted several years ago. All are very active.
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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None of my Jehovah's Witness relatives called to tell me or my family. Just found out this morning. -
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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian
by Perry ina lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.
is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?
what exactly makes someone a christian?
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Perry
My point is you cannot say JWs are not Christian on the basis that they have a different interpretation of the New Covenant than you.
JWF,
You are deliberately mischaracterizing the facts. I have already stated that what I personally think is of nor more consequence than what you or anyone else has to say except....Jesus. It is his words alone that determine if a person is a follower (Christian) or not. And, three times he stated to Nicodemus that a person must be "born again" . That is a fact. You cannot change that fact. It is not open to interpretation no matter how many times you say that it is.
Furthermore, the Watchtower states that only the 144K are "born again". That is also a fact that is not open to interpretation as you claim.
The New Covenant is simply the legal instrument that God uses to give a sinner who deserves death, a new spirit that cannot sin when he is "born again".
It has nothing to do with trying to follow Jesus as much or more than anyone else. You just don't personally see value in Jesus. And your personal values is what this is all about.
There is no benefit in people making ignorant claims that JWs are not Christian. It helps no one.
Thousands of people who were previously deceived into rejecting Jesus at each Memorial and now enjoy religious freedom will beg to differ.