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  Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

  by cofty in

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  i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

  there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

  there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

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  Cofty,

  The study is published in the journal Human Evolution.... not a creationist source.

  I post this because it is favorable toward a worldview which I believe the evidence (that I can personally test or can reasonably subscribe to supports)...unlike you.

  The paper does NOT suggest that life originated all at the same time but that the age of extant species can be traced back to founder populations

  A perfect fit for a Noah's ark scenario. Bravo!

  1. What is your explanation for why dinosaur bones stink like rotting flesh? If they are old enough for the Rocky Mountains to have been worn down by rain water and wind and then rise again as evolutionists claim, how could they still have organic molecules decomposing... still stinking like a corpse?
  
  2. How can carbon dating of dinosaur soft tissue consistently show a date of thousands of years?

  3. How can dinosaur dna fragments last more that a few thousand years when DNA has been demonstrated to last at most a few thousand years?

  These are simple smell-test type observances that even the most uneducated amongst us (such as yourself with ZERO training in the biological sciences) can understand.

  What say you?
  
  

  
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

  there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

  there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

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  Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time
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  Where Do You Think Your Dear Loved Ones Are?

  by minimus in

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  since we were jws at one time, has it influenced your view as to where your dead loved ones are now?

  i know many here do not believe in anything biblical but i’m curious as to whether you believe anyone is in heaven?

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  Thousands of cases of Terminal Lucidity cases shows that our soul lives, even after brain tissue is destroyed.

  
  I believe that man was created in the image (similar to that) of an eternal God. And, man has an eternal soul.... so that no matter whatever happens to the body in a world capable of accidents, evil and decay, fellowship with God would never be at risk; unless of course we choose that. I think God respects our choices. Jesus said that not even a sparrow falls to the ground without God taking notice of it.
  
  In this view, No one will ever be able to cease being conscious.... even if they desperately want to, because it is inherent to our nature, blueprint, construction etc.
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  Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

  jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

  it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

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  Greek scholar Didymus the Blind (c. 350 A.D.) is known to have cited the passage extensively in his commentary on Ecclesiastes, which was discovered in the 1940's. It was commented on at a time when it is admitted that "many manuscripts, both Greek and Latin contained the story" ( cf. Jerome) of the Woman Taken in Adultery.

  Not only was the passage known among Greek commentators from before Jerome's time, it was known specifically in Alexandria, the suspected source of the Alexandrian text-type, which omits the verses. (ie. Sinaiticus and Vaticanus manuscripts which are summarily rejected as hopelessly corrupted by millions of Christians today)

  Early Writers and John 8:1-11
  

  Date	Author	comments
  c. 150 B.C.	Susanna new!	- O.G. has "ορθρου"
  60-120 A.D.	Didache	- Greek & Commentary
  100 A.D.	Papias	- Greek/English
  140 A.D.	Marcion	- early tampering
  150 A.D.	Gospel of Peter	- & John 8:1-11
  c. 150 A.D.	Susanna (Theod.)	- Theod: πᾶς ὁ λαὸς
  140-160 A.D.	Diatesseron	- knows of Jn 8:1-11
  210 A.D.	Tertullian	- evidence of edict
  220 A.D.	Hippolytus	- on Susanna & Origen
  230 A.D.	Origen	- not so silent
  250 A.D.	Didaskalia	- quotes Jn 8:1-11
  290-556 A.D.	The Emperors	- Adultery & Roman Law
  c. 330 A.D.	Constantine	- (see Philostorgius)
  c. 350 A.D.	Apostolic Constitutions	- PA as Holy Scripture
  	Apostolic Const.	- Greek Text
  350 A.D.	Ambrosiaster	- a solid quotation
  360 A.D.	Didymus	- quotes PA as scripture
  370 A.D.	Pacian	- Supports Jerome
  c. 384 A.D.	Jerome	- on John 8:1-11
  	Jerome's NT Preface	- good discussion
  388 A.D.	Ambrose	- quotes Jn 8:1-11
  350-400 A.D.	Epiphanius new!	- Euseb. Canon has PA!
  380-400 A.D.	Faustus on PA	- quoted by Augustine
  400 A.D.	Augustine	Supports PA & TR
  408 A.D.	Rufinus	- aware of PA
  c. 400 A.D.	Chrysostom	- new evidence for PA
  425 A.D.	Philostorgius	- discusses tampering
  429 A.D.	Theodoret	- startling evidence
  400-450	Sozomen new!	- Constantine & Crispus
  425-450 A.D.	Sedulius	- PA as Holy Scripture
  4th-5th cent.	Syriac PA	- accepted as genuine
  c.650+ A.D.	Gospel of Barnabas new!	- & the PA
  c.700 A.D.	The Venerable Bede	- homily on PA
  c.1100 A.D.	Euthymius	- evidence misused
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  JW Good News is merely B.S. Bad News demonstrably wrong (Here is the proof)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  scare tactics generating fear of the end is the core message of jehovah's witnesses.predictions based on so-called bible prophecy is their mother's milk.

  "critical times hard to deal with" flavors every book, article,pamphlet and conversation spoken by dub on the doorstep.indeed, all we hear anywhere seems to be bad news.

  are jw's right?can this be put to the test?

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  Or, as Charles Dickens put it, “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.” The world keeps spinning, but it wobbles. All the same....

  1. Abortions are down to lowest levels since Roe v. Wade

  2. Cigarette smoking down

  3. Littering has declined by 61% in last 40 years

  4. Teen drug and alcohol abuse is down (not including weed)

  5. Percentage of college educated population has increased by a 1/3 in the US

  6. The Watchtower can hide much less of their dirty laundry than they could 30 years ago with the invention of the internet.

  7. Median Household Income (and potential) has risen substantially even when adjusted for inflation

  
  

  Now if we could just get our debt, trade deficits, and 100 Trillion in unfunded liabilities down.
  
  
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  My son graduated last Friday

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  i have talked about him before on this forum.

  he is now a graduate from mit!.

  it was a lovely weekend.. i got to meet some of the friends he has made in the past four years, and some of their families.. they were very nice, decent, friendly, and enjoyable people.

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  Wonderful news Captain! Very happy and excited for you.
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  "Keep testing if you are in the faith" Just like a Doctors visit??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  a thought came to mind.. often when we awaken to the "truth about the truth", jws will ask "what made you start questioning things?

  they act as if we are doing something wrong by questioning facts.. but, the scripture at 2 cor 13:5 clearly says "keep testing whether you are in the faith, keep proving what you are".

  so, this implies regular checks of our faith, and all we believe to be true.

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  The 2nd half of that scripture ends with: "except ye be reprobates"? (KJV)

  So the only ones who don't apply a test to see if their faith is genuine are reprobates.

  Definition: When a sinner is so hardened as to feel no remorse or misgiving of conscience, it is considered as a sign of reprobation.

  This is how I reasoned when I left in Nov. 1995. I lived through the 1975 false prediction as a 12 year old. I lived through the generation prediction collapse with the Nov. 1995 issue of the Watchtower at age 32... I saw no remorse, no apologies; just more misdirection and denials.
  
  They failed the test of faith. And with their failure, my misplaced faith also failed.
  
  I'm so glad I got out when I did.
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  JW stopped me in the street.....

  by Phizzy in

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  he pulled up in his car beside me and asked for directions, then he recognized me, we used to be in the same congo.. the usual pleasantries, i gave him directions, and then "when are you going to come back then" he asks.. "never" i say, "well, it has all changed" he says, " it's not like it used to be" i detect a tone of regret.. "but you know there is nowhere else to go" he boldly proclaims.. "yes there is !

  " say i, "there is somewhere where you can find truth, and truth is supported by facts and evidence ".

  he had to drive off then as he was blocking a narrow street, i did not get time to say " go to jw facts.com", i will tell him next time..

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  Wow, that's a totally different beast !
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  JW stopped me in the street.....

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he pulled up in his car beside me and asked for directions, then he recognized me, we used to be in the same congo.. the usual pleasantries, i gave him directions, and then "when are you going to come back then" he asks.. "never" i say, "well, it has all changed" he says, " it's not like it used to be" i detect a tone of regret.. "but you know there is nowhere else to go" he boldly proclaims.. "yes there is !

  " say i, "there is somewhere where you can find truth, and truth is supported by facts and evidence ".

  he had to drive off then as he was blocking a narrow street, i did not get time to say " go to jw facts.com", i will tell him next time..

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  Thanks for posting this little bit of insight on WT culture these days. I voluntarily left in Nov. of '95 for reasons of conscience.
  
  A recently faded ex-JW told me recently that I would not even recognize the meetings if I were to go back to visit now.
  
  Are they not even using songbooks now Listener? I knew about the prerecorded viceos in place of live parts. It all makes me want to go visit just to see for myself.
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  Interesting

  by dogisgod in

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  i just heard this the other day.

  growing up a jehovahs witness is like growing up in no.

  korea.

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  In the past I have described the JW experience as a cross between N. Korean brain-washing tactics and mafia-style callousness..... displayed by people who wear suits.
  
  I remember a Circuit Overseer stating that he had heard that some people had accused JW's as being brain washed. He then stated with a smirky smile that most people probably needed to have their brains washed.