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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  I get it.

  So do I.

  Thought terminating cliche's and dispalys are a natural and necessary consequence of cognitive dissonance.
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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  Here's an upright tree in a coal deposit.

  The peat bog theory of coal formation allows for a Long period of time. However, for various reasons, this theory has problems and is losing ground to flood theories. A rapid formation view also better explains why such organic deposits are almost always laminated, and in many cases very finely laminated.For example, the Peat Bog Theory asserts that one foot of coal represents 10 feet of compressed peat. However, if a tree is found in a two foot thick coal seam for example, this would (in theory) represent about 20 feet of peat growth. And since peat grows at about 1 foot every 300 - 600 years, then 20 feet of peat would represent about 6,000 -- 12,000 years of time.

  If such trees grew upon the spot where they were entombed, this would mean that they somehow persisted for 6,000 -- 12,000 years without decaying or falling over, since the lower ones appear to be "rooted" below the coal. However, this poses a problem for the peat growth theory because trees are not known to live for 6,000 years. Also, by the size of their trunks, the trees only appear to be about 100--200 years old.

  Therefore either something is wrong with this picture, or with the peat-bog theory of coal formation.
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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  I am the bird silly. Haven't you figured that out after all these years? This is my handsome perch named Scooter.
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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  -Cofty,

  I encourage everyone to read your link as well. It shows how the religion of naturalism must temporarily adopt the truth just long enough to explain away the facts so that it can return to its ideological lies.

  Fossilized trees that penetrate multiple sedimentary layers PROVE that the strata around them were laid down rapidly. In my picture example above, you can still see where the bottom of the tree was violently snapped from its root system.

  However, in areas where there is not the somewhat rare occurance of a tree penetrating multiple layers to cause a "problem", then THOSE layers are described by the true believers to have been laid down over millions of years ... even though they are the exact same layers!

  My Bloviating Meter was in full alarm mode reading that link.
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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  Well, thousands of tree fossils all over the world penetrating many sedimentary layers that are supposed to have been laid down over millions of years certainly doesn't help the case of flood rejectionists.
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  Who is the Real faithful and discreet slave?

  by mtwtf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who is the real faithful and discreet slave?

  he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.

  he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.

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  Perry

  Identical to the office of Pope in the RCC
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  Perry

  Interestingly, we find the number 3 popping up all over creation .....repeatedly.

  For example, God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

  God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent.

  We find the number 3 representing God as if it was His trademark. The curious thing about this trademark is that it shows up in various places, starting with his creation... It took God six days to create everything. He could have done it much sooner but He chose six (3 x 2) days.

  He made the atom with 3 parts (electron, neutron, proton) and used it to create a world with 3 parts (land, sea, air), all within a universe with 3 parts (matter, time, space).

  He created time with 3 divisions (past, present, future) and gave space its 3 dimensions (up/down, left/right/ forward/backward). He created matter with its normal, you guessed it, 3 states (solid, liquid, gas).

  When He created life on earth, this trademark was not far behind. Animals were created to live in 3 areas (in land, in water, in air). He made their survival to depend on 3 essentials (food, water, air), the food providing energy in 3 forms (protein, carbohydrates, fat), the water made up of 3 parts (two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen) and the air primarily consisting of 3 parts (78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, .93% argon.).

  His greatest creation, man, was made in 3 parts also (body, soul, spirit): "...I pray God your whole Spirit and Soul and Body be preserved..." 1 Thessalonians 5:23

  Now one would think God would get tired of using the number 3, but He also stamps his trademark throughout His Word the Bible... 66 (3 x 22) Books in the bible [39 (3 x 13) in the Old Testament- 27 (3 x 9) in the New Testament] 31,173 (3 x 10,391) Verses in the Bible [23,214 (3 x 7738) in the O.T.- 7959 (3 x 2653) in the N.T.]

  Within the Bible itself we find many appearances of the number 3. There were 333 prophecies concerning the coming of Jesus Christ into the world. Jesus Christ was crucified at the age of 33, after a ministry that lasted 3 years. He spent nine (3 x 3) hours on the cross, with 3 of those hours in darkness.

  He was buried for 3 days and 3 nights, and resurrected on the 3rd day. In fact, the word three is mentioned in the Bible 543 (3 x 181) times!

  The universe and the Bible have their Creator's trademark stamped all over them. God wants us to recognize both as His handiwork. It's his logo.

  Read:

  Romans 1:20

  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  Perry

  

  The trinity doesn't violate idenity, it explains it..... much the same way the red barn and the green barn and the blue barn are just different aspects of the one barn on top.

  Likewise we are spirit, soul and flesh ...in the image of God. How many times has your spirit intended to do one thing but the prospect of fleshly gratification prompted you to do another?

  You are a prisoner to your naturalism paradigm. Think about it. Your flesh doesn't have two you's when you are "fighting with yourself" Our flesh, soul and spirit are in conflict with each other MANY times.... yet they are all YOU.

  We are made in God's image.
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  Dutchman launches life-sized replica of Noah's Ark

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  huibers, a christian, used books 6-9 of genesis as his inspiration, following the instructions god gives noah down to the last cubit.

  translating to modern measurements, huibers came up with a vessel that works out to a whopping 427 feet (130 meters) long, 95 feet (29 meters) across and 75 feet (23 meters) high.

  story here.. .

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  Perry

  (420'×58')	Tessarakonteres	ca. 200 BCE	The Greektrireme Tessarakonteres reportedly carried a crew of 400, was powered by 4000 oarsmen and transported 2850 soldiers, according to Athenaeus and Plutarch (Life of Demetrios). Historical evidence for this ship is limited to ancient references. [ 51 ] [ 52 ] [ 53 ]
  (450'×75')	Noah's Ark	unknown [ 54 ]	Noah's Ark is described in accounts in Genesis and the Qur'an .

  Well, Noah's Ark isn't the only ancient 400'+ wooden ship in history. The chinese were making them in the 1400's and there is the Greek reference above from wikipedia, and many others.

  Also:

  In the book Noah’s Ark: A Feasibility Study 4 , creationist researcher John Woodmorappe suggests that, at most, 16,000 animals were all that were needed to preserve the created kinds that God brought into the Ark.

  The Ark did not need to carry every kind of animal—nor did God command it. It carried only air-breathing, land-dwelling animals, creeping things, and winged animals such as birds. Aquatic life (fish, whales, etc.) and many amphibious creatures could have survived in sufficient numbers outside the Ark. This cuts down significantly the total number of animals that needed to be on board.

  Another factor which greatly reduces the space requirements is the fact that the tremendous variety in species we see today did not exist in the days of Noah. Only the parent “kinds” of these species were required to be on board in order to repopulate the earth. 5 For example, only two dogs were needed to give rise to all the dog species that exist today.

  Creationist estimates for the maximum number of animals that would have been necessary to come on board the Ark have ranged from a few thousand to 35,000, but they may be as few as two thousand if the biblical kind is approximately the same as the modern family classification.

  A little over half of the Ark would have been needed for the animals.

  As far as the salt vs. fresh water fish, here's an interesting commentary:

  But what about the fish and other marine creatures? Obviously, they weren't taken on board the Ark. How could they survive, particularly both fresh and salt water forms? As a matter of fact, most of them didn't survive. Over 95 percent of all fossils are marine creatures. They died, and are fossilized, by the trillions. Many are buried in great fossil graveyards, tightly packed together, choked with sediments, buried before they had time to decay. Obviously, they didn't live in the environment in which they died. But how could any have survived?

  In the complex of events and conditions that made up the Flood, certainly there were pockets of fresh and/or clean water at any one time. Remember, it was raining in torrents, and we can expect that the rain was fairly fresh water. Many studies have shown that waters of various temperatures, chemistries, and sediment loads do not tend to mix; they tend to remain segregated into zones. It would be unlikely for any one area to retain such zones for very long during the tumult of the Flood, but on a worldwide scale, some such segregated zones would have existed at any given time. Furthermore, we don't know the tolerance levels of pre-Flood fish for sediment, salt, and temperature. Modern fish have a great variety of responses to different environments. Perhaps before the Flood, fish were even more adaptable.
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  3/15/12 WT: Health Problems Causing You To Become Spiritually Weak? Then You Are Wicked.

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/e1/ws_e_20130315.pdf.

  check out the first study article in the march 15th study edition.

  it seems they are now stating that if you allow health problems to cause you to miss meetings or become inactive then you are wicked because you refuse to "get up" from being stumbled.

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  One brother who was raised in
  the truth said that for as long as he
  could remember, he had homosexual
  desires.... By the time he was 20, he
  had become a regular pioneer andwas
  a ministerial servant in the congregation.
  Then he made a serious mistake
  and was disciplined .... This happened
  a long time ago, but he says: “At
  times I still have those feelings, but
  I don’t let them overtake me. I have
  learned that Jehovah will not let you
  be tempted beyond what you can handle.
  So I believe that God thinks I can
  make it.” This brother does not want
  anything to take him out of the race.
  He knows that life in the new world is
  worth whatever he has to endure now.
  He says: “Until then, I will continue to
  fight.”

  This kind of garbage is just exactly why I left. This man's experience IS NOT what is described in the bible. The WT's response to SIN is to (1) Try Harder (1) Run faster (2) Jump Higher.

  The bible offers VICTORY another way:

  neither: fornicators, nor, idolaters, nor, adulterers, nor, effeminate, nor, abusers of themselves with mankind, ,
  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus,

  I left the organization because I HATE BEING A LOSER. I really hate it. I like to win. I could not deal with sin the way the WT perscribed. Little did I know then that the WT method guarantees failure, while Jesus Christ guarantees success.