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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Adamah Says:

  Where'd you get the incorrect idea that science requires replication?

  So just change the definition when it suits you? Information is not simply a tool to attack opponents so long as the end justifies the means. That's unacceptable, to me at least..

  UNDERSTANDING HOW SCIENCE REALLLY WORKS - UC Berkley

  Scientists aim for their studies' findings to be replicable — so that, for example, an experiment testing ideas about the attraction between electrons and protons should yield the same results when repeated in different labs. This goal of replicability makes sense. After all, science aims to reconstruct the unchanging rules by which the universe operates, and those same rules apply, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from Sweden to Saturn, regardless of who is studying them. If a finding can't be replicated, it suggests that our current understanding of the study system or our methods of testing are insufficient. ... The desire for replicability is part of the reason that scientific papers almost always include a methods section.

  Adamah,

  Opponents to your views are going to ignore your posts that are formulated in this manner. Most people don't want to win an argument as much as just sift through some facts and make their own conclusions. Without challenges, You just end up with others with the same mob mentality that agree with you. This is intellectual isolationism.

  You said:

  MOUNTAINS of counter-evidence exists to disprove the Bible

  Really? I've heard similar statements numerous times over the last 13 years on this discussion board. But, I've never heard one convincing argument. I'm willing to give you the opportunity. Instead of a MOUNTAIN, can you just provide one example?
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  jgnat,

  I read the whole article. There was a self-congratulatory tone to the article. However, this seems to be the point:

  "the granddaddy of these experiments--the 11-year, 24,000-generation E. coli cultures in Lenski's laboratory--is telling stories about predictability, chance, and history that other experiments have echoed. All 12 of Lenski's cultures experience the same stresses: a daily boom-and-bust cycle, in which the bacteria are transferred to fresh glucose medium every 24 hours, then undergo 6 hours or so of plenty followed by 18 hours of starvation. All 12 lines have adapted to this regimen; when the researchers do a head-to-head comparison between the evolved bacteria and the ancestral strain, plucked from the freezer and revived, the descendants now grow about 60% faster in their standard glucose-containing medium. All 12 populations show other parallel changes, too--for example, a still-unexplained, twofold increase in cell size."

  Big deal. They started with bacteria and ended with bigger bacteria. It's still bacteria. Rather than supporting Macro (Darwinian) Evolution, this seems to demonstrate the incredible resistence of organism to change outside of their "kind" over time. How do you go from this to the outrageous, sweeping claims Darwin made?
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Perry

  It might be possible to turn a fox into a buzzard, but it would take millions of years.

  That's not science. It can't be replicated, no matter how hard scientists have tried..... and boy have they tried. There always seems to be some "just so" story that accounts for something in the "millions" paradigm, and of course the other consistent feature is that it just so happens that it can't be replicated.

  See, this is just where my Bull Corn meter just starts whizzzzizng out-of-control.
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  A Clean Slate When You Die ??

  by Perry in

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  for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

  - romans 6:7 (nwt).

  i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.

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  Right, but you still will be judged for some sin someone committed at some point in history, somewhere, some time ago.

  I've read the bible a few times, been to several churches , all attended regularly, read thousands of pages written on the fundamental doctrines of Christianity, & created a website explaining the historic doctrines guided by none other than common sense and the Holy Spirit. I can honestly say I've never heard of a Chrristian doctrine whereby a person gets judged for someone elses sins. What New Testament scripture teaches this?
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  Why do Jehovah Witnesses hate when you bring up going to Jesus?

  by sheila wright in

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  • Why do Jehovah Witnesses hate when you bring up going to Jesus?

  For the same reasons that some atheists on this board hate it I guess.
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  A Clean Slate When You Die ??

  by Perry in

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  for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

  - romans 6:7 (nwt).

  i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.

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  So what's the deal with A&E?

  I don't know. All I know is that the bible doesn't teach that I'll be judged for something they did.
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Perry

  That stated, I don't suppose you'd be interested in a small flightless dinosaur (theropod) that was the size of a kit fox that eventually turned into buzzards? There's been a TON of incredible fossils found in China within the last decade or so that reveal intricate details of wings and characteristic features of dinosaurs (add this to the famous archaeopteryx species specimens found over the last two centuries):

  Adamah,

  The infamous archaeopteryx isn't necessary for this discussion. Can't you provide at least one scientific example of where one "kind" turned into a different "kind" of animal. Surely science could accomplish something this simple if it happened millions and millions of times by accident.
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  A Clean Slate When You Die ??

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

  - romans 6:7 (nwt).

  i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.

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  Perry

  designs,

  As I have pointed out to you numerous times, to no avail I might add; Your position is an impossibility. Your view is (paraphrased) : If there is a God, he doesn't judge sin. Of course this contradicts the notion of an All-Benevelent God which is inherent in the definition of "God".

  Somehow you fail to realize that an all-good God that doesn't judge sin, would be in actuality an enabler of sin becauses he chooses not to judge it.... allowing it to perpetuate endlessly. Thus your all-good God that you must reference to even have this discussion, is by your definition not all-good.

  This is most illogical.
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  A Clean Slate When You Die ??

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

  - romans 6:7 (nwt).

  i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.

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  Perry

  I personally have a problem with god condemning all of us for the sin of two people

  Thankfully the bible doesn't teach this.

  Excellent references Bobcat.... thanks
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Perry

  The Silver fox experiment, The foxes were tamed, and they evolved into dogs with different colour fur and shaped noses

  So one Canine turned into another Canine? That doesn't sound like Darwinian Evolution Macro-Evolution to me. Now, if someone could get a Fox to turn into Buzzard, I could get on board with that.