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  Did you go to your prom or belong to a "worldly" club while you were a witness?

  by minimus in

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  i didn't go to the prom but i did belong to a chess club until the awake article said it was a war game and suggested true christians wouldn't play such a game.

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  Perry

  Thanks for posting that VH7.

  That reasoning is so flawed. Life is war, our Christian walk is war, we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against .... wickedness in high places. And, 2 Timothy 2:3 says, "Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ."

  I suspect the reason they wrote against chess is because of its inherent mental practice, and also it just gives people another reason to imagine their moral superiority by adding another item to their prohibition list. 

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  Been a while!

  by lambsbottom in

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  just wanted to say thank you to all of you for everything over the last 3.5 years.

  i am completely faded now.

  i no longer suffer from major anxiety/depression, well versed on cults and how to protect myself, continually searching and taking in knowledge regarding my own relationship with god.

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  Perry

  Glad to hear that you have readjusted your thinking!
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  Gave my first hour talk sunday before last

  by Perry in

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  i started going door to door at age 5 and was giving no.

  2 talks by age 7. during the 8 years i was an active adult jw i was never a ms or elder (although i was a regular pioneer once).

  so, i never qualified to give an hour talk.

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  Perry

  I may post something in the future. I looked at the video and wasn't happy with my delivery. I used a script as opposed to an outline because I have a terrible habit of wandering off too much when using an outline. 

  The Wall Street Journal recently had an interesting piece on creation here. But regardless of what position ex members take, I think that we would all agree that Christians are in a unique position to help JW's question their own beliefs from a biblical point of view.

  They may shun us, but they actively seek out Christians at their homes. 
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  Did Taze ever really go away?

  by woodforde in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as a recent wbts watcher (i am writing a thesis on "cults", not limited to jw's but they are a true gold-mine to research), i notice that the planning for their proposed new factory near chelmsford has been submitted in the name of the international bible students association.

  surely a legal "deev" of some sort.

  does anyone have any views, derived from experience, arcane knowledge or good ol' conspiracy theory - doesn't matter which!

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  Perry

  Yes, but he did leave a lot of people tazed and confused.
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  Gave my first hour talk sunday before last

  by Perry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started going door to door at age 5 and was giving no.

  2 talks by age 7. during the 8 years i was an active adult jw i was never a ms or elder (although i was a regular pioneer once).

  so, i never qualified to give an hour talk.

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  Perry

  Hebrews 9: 27 and Matthew 26: 27, 28
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  Gave my first hour talk sunday before last

  by Perry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started going door to door at age 5 and was giving no.

  2 talks by age 7. during the 8 years i was an active adult jw i was never a ms or elder (although i was a regular pioneer once).

  so, i never qualified to give an hour talk.

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  Perry

  It was a great personal achievement for me to be able to talk objectively about Jehovah's Witnesses and encourage Christians to have real compassion for members at their door. I was able to explain why when Christians talk about Heaven it doesn't mean the same thing to a JW, as well as other areas of disconnect, .... trinity, soul sleep, etc.

  I wrapped up with a door to door demonstration. My wife was the JW and came on stage with my 8 Yr. old and knocked on the door. I showed how to avoid arguments and with only 2 scripture citations from the NWT leave the Witness with the "I don't know" look. 

  
  

  I prepared for a week but, I think everyone liked the 3 minute demo the best. 
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  Gave my first hour talk sunday before last

  by Perry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started going door to door at age 5 and was giving no.

  2 talks by age 7. during the 8 years i was an active adult jw i was never a ms or elder (although i was a regular pioneer once).

  so, i never qualified to give an hour talk.

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  Perry

  I started going door to door at age 5 and was giving No. 2 talks by age 7. During the 8 years I was an active adult JW I was never a MS or Elder (although I was a regular pioneer once). So, I never qualified to give an hour talk. 

  I gave my first hour talk two Sundays ago (complete with Powerpoint) at my church on the subject of Jehovah's Witnesses and some of their doctrines. 

  Funny how things end up. 
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  The intcal13 dataset: The best evidence I know of for C14 dating.

  by bohm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  carbon 14 dating is often dismissed as relying on the assumption the c14/c12 ratio in the past has been comparable to the present, however what is rarely acknowledged is this assumption can be checked.

  the way the assumption is checked is by finding a system which admits dating independent of c14.

  popular choices are dendrochronology, where tree-rings are counted and by matching variation in tree-ring width across trees it is possible to build a chronology stretching back 12000 years, or varvas, where yearly variations in sediment deposits in lakes admit chronologies to be build stretching back tens of thousands of years.

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  http://www.debate.org/debates/Radiometric-Dating-is-Accurate/3/ 

  
  

  I'm not supportive of Watchtower theology, but after my families' experience with authority figures in the WT, I doubt much of what gets passed off as fact in our world. See above link for a pro & con discussion on dating. 
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  The Bible's huge implicit contradiction on the subject of love for God vs love for your fellow man.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "if anyone makes the statement: i love god, and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar.

  for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving god, whom he has not seen" - 1 john 4:20. here the bible implies that it is far easier to love a visible person than an invisible one.

  therefore if one lacks love for a visible person, how much more so he must lack love for the invisible god.

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  Perry

  And by the way, what kind of loving God would require his worshippers to have greater love for him than for their family - to sacrifice their family relationships for him?

  
  

  The kind of people that believe God when he says that there will be judgment after death will appreciate this requirement if their family demands that they do things or believe things in a way that is disobedient to God....Like the WT does for example. 
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  Books/texts/scriptures mentioned in the bible , though not incorporated in the bible cannon .

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a bible writer / scribe refers to a particular book text or scripture by name , for one reason or another, shouldn`t that be a legitimate reason for including it in the bible cannon as a part of the bible ?.

  just how many texts , books, scriptures are left out of the old testament bible that are mentioned there in and how many, if any are their in the new testament..

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  Perry

  If a bible writer / scribe refers to a particular book text or scripture by name , for one reason or another, shouldn`t that be a legitimate reason for including it in the bible cannon as a part of the bible ?

  
  

  
  Not necessarily. Some books were simply history books available during that time period. I own the Book of Jasher, and it sheds some more light on the extent of wickedness in pre-flood times. Interesting, but I take it with a grain of salt. Interesting nonetheless.