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  New light in this weeks WT?

  by Indian Larry in

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  anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

  for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

  in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

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  Perry

  Sounds to me like they are laying the groundwork for some future yet-to-be-announced doctrinal change.
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  My first paid comedy gig

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after 5 months of struggling, yesterday i was paid to perform.

  for those who saw the last video i hope you see an improvement.. would love feedback as always.

  the first 2 minutes is on my life as a former jw.. cheers.

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  Perry

  God bless you
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  What did you regrettably not do because you were a Jehovah's Witness ?

  by minimus in

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  jehovah's witnesses cannot do a lot of things.

  i remember pioneers having to quit their jobs because they could not work in a convenience store and sell cigarettes.

  i know of a young man who was offered a scholarship to any college or university if he wanted to go to because of his football abilities.

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  Play sports in school.
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  Is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?

  by Conias in

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  2. friends

  is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?.

  in the event that one of the spouses is being psychologically mistreated in a very serious manner where his health is severely damaged and even his own life is in danger.

  is there a biblical basis for jehovah's witnesses for separation or divorce?.

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  Perry

  You are correct Blondie.

  If a spouse starts getting a little too excited about Jesus, especially to the point where one might actually consider a direct relationship without a church organization, that is considered to be a threat to Watchtower spirituality and therefore grounds for separation, divorce, but not remarriage.
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  Is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?

  by Conias in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?.

  in the event that one of the spouses is being psychologically mistreated in a very serious manner where his health is severely damaged and even his own life is in danger.

  is there a biblical basis for jehovah's witnesses for separation or divorce?.

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  The only biblical reason for divorce and remarriage is adultery and death of a spouse. .

  The Watchtower added "Absolute endangerment of one's spirituality."

  This is code language referring to talking too much about Jesus rather than "the organization".
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  Perry

  Mouthy loved the Lord. Always enjoyed her spirit.
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  Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.

  i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?

  let's say you're a baptist.

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  Let's say you're a Baptist. At what point do they tell you that you can't attend other churches or read anything critical of the Society?

  
  

  They don't.

  
  

  I went to a Baptist church for a while because I liked the preaching. I asked the pastor if there were any hidden rules if I wanted to keep coming. He said no, and was a man of his word. We attended there 3 years until we moved. We are still friends with everyone even though we don't attend a Baptist church now.

  
  

  Most churches are run at the local level except for the old line denominations; and most of those are so compromised they wouldn't care about too much. The good ones just want to be good disciples of Jesus, care about others, live in peace and live out their lives as Christians.

  What the Watchtower does to members is unlike anything in the NT church, because the WT only applies God's Grace to the leaders. This sets up the two-class system where them and ONLY them are needed for your salvation.

  In Christian churches, everyone is a member of the New Covenant, which puts everyone on the same level. The leaders are just servants in the same position as the members.
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  How My Husband Helped Me See TTATT

  by corruptgirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wanted to write my experience on how my husband helped me see the ttatt (the truth about the truth).

  first, let me mention that he wrote his own experience a couple months ago under the name sanchy.

  for his story please click here….. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5148261828526080/walking-thin-line-resigning-elder

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  I hope the best for you all, and I hope you all still keep your faith in God. I may be lost in regards to my beliefs right now but one thing I know for sure is that there is a God and he will bring “GB” to justice for screwing with so many people’s minds and lives….whether they do it knowingly or not.

  
  

  Thank's for sharing your testimony CG! Many good points to consider.
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  I don't like the person i am becoming...

  by SpunkedTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!

  ) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?

  , oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.

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  i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.I've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.

  
  

  This is what happened to me. I would read in the bible how disciples had victory over sin, had peace, an openness with God, and real joy.... not just momentary happiness. This was not my experience as a Jehovah's Witness. My will power could only take me so far it seemed.

  Fortunately, God doesn't make us rely on willpower alone, or even primarily. God is in the business of Freedom. If you're feeling burdened, squeezed, controlled by sin, it aint from God.

  Read Romans Chapter 6. Here's just one gem from that chapter:

  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.... For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
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  the new understanding

  by heathen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .

  what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .

  any comments ?.

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  Perry

  1914 is the set up for the Two-Salvation System taught by the WT. Here's a paper I wrote on this for a class I conducted just the other day:

  
  

  Just because some believers in different time periods may have a different position, authority, destination, reward, function etc.; the scriptures are clear that they are all legally declared righteous by faith and not by works. The “Great Crowd” takes part of the New Covenant as is evident from a plain reading of Rev. 7: 14 – “And he said to me, These are they who come out of the great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and have made them white in the blood [covenant] of the Lamb.”

  
  Even though the bible says that, 1.) “the great crowd” achieves a righteous standing by the blood of the lamb, and 2.) that blood is only accessed by faith in Jesus’ New Covenant, and 3.) the New Covenant is for “forgiveness of sins”(Mt. 26: 27&28); modern Jehovah’s Witnesses DO NOT profess to be a part of the New Covenant and do not partake of the bread and the wine emblems at their observance of the Lord’s Supper. They are taught that door was shut in 1914 and for sure by the expiration of the “generation” thereafter. They believe their salvation is achieved by association with and obedience to the “faithful & discreet slave class” aka – Bride of Christ, aka – 144K “spiritual Israelites”; which is now the leaders of the Watchtower – the last remnant of true church age Believers.

  Watchtower leaders thus position themselves as co-mediators with Christ. Official church doctrine is that Christ is only a Mediator for Church Age Believers (of which leaders are the last true remnant) and Jesus in not the Mediator for the “Great Crowd”. – WT 4/1/79 p.31

  The great weakness in Watchtower theology is that most JW’s are not aware that Jesus is not their Mediator, according to official WT doctrine. Most have not stopped to consider that the Great Crowd is made “white” by the “blood of the lamb” – the New Covenant. JW’s are also completely unaware of a personal judgment after death(Hebrews 9: 28), and hence a personal savior seems unnecessary, if not ought right silly. When a personal judgement is pointed out to them, they are unable to provide an explanation of how they will personally escape judgment, while positioned outside of the New Covenant…. especially after Mt. 26: 27& 28 is read to them where it plainly states in their own bible that the New Covenant is specifically for “the forgiveness of sins”.

  
  The (UN) Importance of 1914
  The “Generation of 1914” was bedrock Watchtower doctrine for nearly 100 years and explains much of Watchtower error. The doctrine stated unequivocally that the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away until Jesus returned all the way to the earth to wipe out his enemies at the battle of Armageddon. As time marched on further and further away from 1914, with no earthly return; the Watchtower changed its definition of “generation” many times in an attempt to explain the failure. At first, the term was applied to those old enough to understand the events of 1914 (WW 1). Then it was applied to those born in 1914 or before. Then it was changed from “70 or 80 years” to a maximum length of 100 years. Since it has now been over 100 years, the Watchtower has once again changed the definition of “a generation” to mean, “over-lapping generations” indicative of an undetermined period of time. Most Jehovah’s Witnesses admit this is nonsense, even if they do not publically acknowledge it. Yet, this is still the basis for their personal rejection on the New Covenant.

  
  In light of the embarrassing manipulation of the term “generation” to fit a failed prediction; doesn’t it make more sense that: it is the 1914 date of “Christs’ Arrival/Presence” that is wrong? Consequently, common sense dictates that that we are all still living in the Church Age/Age of Grace/Gentile Times.

  
  Here's a link for downloading and printing if anyone finds this useful.