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  For JW lurkers - After Hamburg.................

  by BoogerMan in

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  .......do you still believe the organization's false teaching that romans 6:7 refer to a person's literal death?.

  watchtower may 15th 1982, pp.

  8,9 - "the bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed.".

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  @ Blondie - Thanks for the Pure Worship book quote. That's a "new scrolls" reference not available on the CD ROM.

  @ Rattigan350 - I agree with you 100% - the Bible is right regarding Romans 6:7. JW's are wrong.

  Now read Romans 6:2,4,6,8,11 and you'll see that the context of v. 7 is describing a figurative dying - to one's former course of conduct.

  2 Certainly not! Seeing that we died with reference to sin, how can we keep living any longer in it?

  4 So we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also should walk in a newness of life.

  6 For we know that our old personality was nailed to the stake along with him in order for our sinful body to be made powerless, so that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin.

  8 Moreover, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.

  11 Likewise you, consider yourselves to be dead with reference to sin but living with reference to God by Christ Jesus.

  Dying of cancer or being killed by a Guinness lorry does not acquit anyone of their sins. If they did, then scripturally, Christ's death and sacrifice were totally unnecessary.
  
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  For JW lurkers - After Hamburg.................

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .......do you still believe the organization's false teaching that romans 6:7 refer to a person's literal death?.

  watchtower may 15th 1982, pp.

  8,9 - "the bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed.".

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  .......do you still believe the organization's false teaching that Romans 6:7 refer to a person's literal death?

  Watchtower May 15th 1982, pp. 8,9 - "The Bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed."
  

  bh p. 214 par. 3 - "..the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died... Those resurrected thus come to life with a clean slate, so to speak."

  Philipp Fusz the killer also died. Consider the mental conflict when exchanging a figurative meaning for a literal one - as you try to convince youself and others of this abominable false teaching.

  (Romans 1:25) They exchanged the truth of God for the lie.
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  Dreading the memorial

  by Isambard Crater in

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  hey.

  does anyone else dread attending (in person or on zoom) the memorial months in advance?.

  literally as soon as new year hits, i feel sick and super anxious, and i've realised it's because of the memorial, which i only attend because of family, who kinda tell me the reason they have bad health is cuz i left the jw sevel years ago..

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  Hi Isambard Crater, if/when you decide to fade, consider these options for dealing with 'inquisitive' elders and other JW's :

  "Thank you for your concerns, but I have private & personal issues which I can't discuss with anyone at the moment - except in prayer to JEHOVAH - but I certainly appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, I will call you."

  Elders' Conversation Stoppers:

  "We only want to come and give you encouragement."

  Simply repeat the response above - especially the phrase, "private & personal"!

  "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?"

  "Everyone has private & personal situations which they can't discuss with others, and I'm sure that includes the elders - I'm no different!"

  "Are you refusing to talk with us?"

  "No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. I'll call you if things change."

  The elders can't punish someone who chooses not to discuss personal issues, so never prolong an interrogation - just say 'thanks' and walk away.
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  The lockdown files

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
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  now we know it was all lies and politicians were discussing “when shall deploy the new variants”.

  https://youtu.be/yxspk9tt3ik.

  meanwhile the gov body believed all the lies and even said “you may be wondering what do these brothers know, wrong question what does jehovah know”.

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  @ ex-bethpima - the WTBTS/CCoJW are part & parcel of the system.

  They are a multi-bi££ion business organization (the clue is in the name - wtbts INC.) who jumped onto the Christendom gravy-train with their own 'unique' teachings in order to create a new business model.

  So expect more government boot-licking by the org as they try to keep their charity status in some countries.
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  Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

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  @ exbpima - LOL - YOU'RE WAY OFF, I say you're way off this time son!! (F.L.)

  I'm a Bible believer - not a WTBTS/GB believer!

  As I once told a Bible study I had, "if anyone ever tells you something is in the Bible, ask them to prove it!"

  WTBTS, 1919 - impossible to prove. Takes a helluva lot of faith - and indoctrination.
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  Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

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  @ exbethelitepima - welcome to the 'dark side.' I hope you'll benefit from some of the members here.

  Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence.

  Question: can you provide Biblical proof that -

  A) God personally chose the WTBTS to represent Him & Jesus Christ, and

  B) He did so in 1919 C.E.

  I've scoured the Scriptures to no avail.
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  WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .......you will experience a fate worse than death!

  you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.

  you've got one month to change your mind.

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  .......you will experience a fate worse than death! You have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go. You've got ONE month to change your mind.

  w72 3/15 p. 167 - “Therefore, anyone deliberately staying away from this celebration, on March 29, does well to consider this question: If willful disregard of the ancient Passover was punishable by death, would not a more severe punishment be meted out to one who spurns the Lord’s Evening Meal...?”
  
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  Details of Noah’s Ark

  by enigma1863 in

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  jw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?

  name one person outside of noah’s family.

  name one nephilim.

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  @ peacefulpete - "Readers of the Noah stories...have assumed the writer must have envisioned a boat shape..."

  Just stating the Bible facts - not on what erstwhile matelots thought the writer was saying.
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  Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years

  by Foolednomore in

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  2. friends

  kingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.

  elders will play a much smaller role since csa.

  cart preaching will replace door to door.

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  We live in hope!
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  Another big win for child molesters!

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it just keeps getting easier and easier to molest.

  when big religion has got your back, and you know that you can rape kids with impunity as father religion keeps the door to heaven swinging wide, 24/7 absolution available for the superstitious pedo, why not should everyone rape kids….

  the pedophile loophole, the mainstay of the whitewashed, clergy penitent privilege, the hole e grail of the christian whore is swinging open, welcoming the perverts.

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  Sincere thanks for that link; immediately passed it on to two separate JW households who are both seriously questioning the cult's teachings and practices.