@ markweatherill - according to the BBC, more than 5000 Ukrainians obtained tickets to attend the match.
Looking at TV footage, that figure appeared to be an underestimate.
so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.
things must be improving, eh?.
@ markweatherill - according to the BBC, more than 5000 Ukrainians obtained tickets to attend the match.
Looking at TV footage, that figure appeared to be an underestimate.
so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.
things must be improving, eh?.
People who haven't seen it, should view the movie, "Official Secrets." (with Keira Knightley)
It may change their finger-pointing at Mr. Putin to include other parties.
so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.
things must be improving, eh?.
So nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age Ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach Wembley to support their national football team yesterday. Things must be improving, eh?
.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
@ Hellothere - "Jesus death seems not to amount to much according to watchtower."
Jesus' death amounts to zero, according to the governing body's teachings!
Virtually every human who has ever lived, wiped out all of their sins via their own death - they didn't need Christ to die for them.
Watchtower May 15th 1982, pp. 8,9 - "The Bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed."
Bible Teach p. 214 par. 3 - "..the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died... Those resurrected thus come to life with a clean slate, so to speak."
If this doesn't merit being called "antichrist," then nothing dies!
we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.
my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.
Genesis 3:19 - "...you will eat food until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you will return." (NET Bible)
Non-existent before, non-existent after.
Acts 2:34 - "For David did not ascend into heaven.." (was David not good enough, but Lazarus was?)
John 3:13 - "No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven - the Son of Man."
during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.
the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.
do the branch help at all?
Dozy said - "...an announcement was made every month about how [KH] funds were spent..."
Any chance a JW can ask Warwick HQ how they are spending donations?
Go on lurkers, I double-dare you to ask for a statement! (ever had a judicial meeting before?)
we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.
my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.
@ seabreeze - The average human lifespan is approx. 840 months, so when I hear professed Christians say that their righteous God is going punish/torture sinners for all eternity, I'd rather not get to know their "God."
I used to think sending people to an Australian penal colony for stealing a loaf of bread was bad, but eternal torture for 840 months of sinning????? Nah! That ain't justice!
june 2023 study watchtower p. 13, par 15 - “we will not be fooled if we “make sure of or, “test” all things.”...we need to test what we hear or what we read to determine whether it is genuine.....instead of naively accepting what others the org say, we use our thinking ability to compare what we read or what we hear with what the bible and jehovah’s organization say.”.
June
2023 Study Watchtower p. 13, par 15 - “We
will not be fooled if we “make sure of or, “test” all
things.”...we need to test what we hear or what we read to
determine whether it is genuine.....Instead of naively accepting
what others the org say, we use our thinking ability to compare what we read
or what we hear with what the Bible and
Jehovah’s organization say.”
we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.
my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.
@ seabreeze - can you cite some of the many scriptures you mentioned? Interested to see how they're worded.
they're fooled into not witnessing for christ, but for "jehovah" - despite 27 scriptures for christ, & zero for god.. they're fooled into rejecting the new covenant, because they are supposedly an antitype for the exodus foreigners.
they're fooled into believing false teachings about the name "jehovah," to subvert the name of christ.. prime example: w94 9/15 p. 10 par.
3 - “making public declaration to jehovah’s name is an undeserved privilege for imperfect humans.”.
They're fooled into not witnessing for Christ, but for "Jehovah" - despite 27 scriptures for Christ, & zero for God.
They're fooled into rejecting the New Covenant, because they are supposedly an antitype for the Exodus foreigners.
They're fooled into believing false teachings about the name "Jehovah," to subvert the name of Christ.
PRIME EXAMPLE: w94 9/15 p. 10 par. 3 - “Making public declaration to Jehovah’s name is an undeserved privilege for imperfect humans.”
This false teaching is based upon their false interpretation of this scripture:
(Hebrews 13:15) "Through him [Jesus] let us always offer to God a sacrifice of praise, that is, the fruit of our lips that make public declaration to his name."
What topic & name was to be "publicly declared?"
(Romans 10:9) "For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved."
The antichrists in Warwick should consider revealing "new lights" - they're worse than so-called apostates.