Posts by BoogerMan

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Watching the show

by Teddnzo in

i’m new to apostate stuff but have gone deep down a few rabbit holes of late so want to see both sides to everything .

im going to a congregation but am viewed as a bit of a black sheep because i question lots of things but not enough to cause too much trouble.. i’m intrigued watching the show.

in my heart i’m pretty sure the governing body are fakes and charlatans.. the entire thing is a big con game.

BoogerMan

Welcome TEDDNZO. I hope you enjoy your time here and benefit from the exchanges.

You have a P.M. (Too long to post here)

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

BoogerMan

@ aqwsed - You said, "they strive to interpret this verse differently."

I'm so glad that you are not trying to do that! 😂

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The G.B. are now going to be EQUAL with Christ in heaven!!!!

by BoogerMan in

they are not just going to be "joint kings and priests," oh no, because the latest washtowel is sneakily implying that they will be "joint kings and high priests.

october 2023 study watchtower p. 28, par.

13 - "after jesus was resurrected, he entered the most holy of the spiritual temple, where all the anointed eventually join him.".

BoogerMan

They are not just going to be "joint kings and priests," oh no, because the latest Washtowel is sneakily implying that they will be "joint kings and high priests."

October 2023 Study Watchtower p. 28, par. 13 - "After Jesus was resurrected, he entered the Most Holy of the spiritual temple, where all the anointed eventually join him."

Since only a HIGH priest can enter the Most Holy, it means that there are now going to be 144,000 High Priests in heaven.

It looks like the apostle Paul was wrong when he told Christians that they were God's spiritual temple.

(1 Corinthians 3:16, 17) Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.

(1 Corinthians 6:19) Do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit within you, which you have from God?

(2 Corinthians 6:16) For we are a temple of a living God;

(Ephesians 2:19-22) So you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens of the holy ones and are members of the household of God, and you have been built up on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him you too are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit.

(2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4) Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god.

(Revelation 7:14, 15) And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. That is why they are before the throne of God, and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple;

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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

BoogerMan

I don't remember the thief whom Jesus made the promise to, getting baptised.

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What Did the Following People Have in Common?

by no-zombie in

what did the following people have in common?.

1 job2 the widow of zaraphath3 naaman4 the samaritan leper (one of the 10 lepers)5 the roman army officer of capernaum6 cornelius and his guestsnone were ...israelitesjewish convertspart of the abrahamic covenantchristianspart of a christian congregationin a dedicated relationship with godorbaptizedhowever ...all were directly given holy spirit or individually blessed by god ... even though, they were not part of 'jehovah's organization'.take time to think what this really means.luke 4:24-29acts 10:34-35.

BoogerMan

Korah, Dathan, Abiram, Ananias and Sapphira?????

My reply to JW's: They were all dealing with persons who had displayed God-given powers. Setting up a printing business and real estate empire doesn't prove divine selection!

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Rainbow 🌈 Law Makers will turn on Religion NOT the UN

by JohnTron7 in

it should be starting to become more clear to people what i've stated for years on this site.

the threat against religion that becomes pivotal will come from lgbtq politicians forcing through " hate crime" bills aimed at religions.

in the past i have had a " maybe" statement from only one commenter.

BoogerMan

"Trans-rights are human rights."

Don't pedophiles have human rights too??????????? Just askin.' They'll be next!

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

@ vidquin - "I do it my way and you do it your way. You can believe what you like and interpret the Scriptures in any way. Let me not stand in your way. As long as you are happy with what you believe."

Best response I've seen in a long time. Totally agree!

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New Bible Translation from Warwick: The G.B. Revised Edition

by BoogerMan in

only a matter of time!

here are just a few examples of what is inferred now, but will become 'new lights.'.

i'm sure thousands more verses will be 'refined.

BoogerMan

Only a matter of time! Here are just a few examples of what is inferred now, but will become 'new lights.'

I'm sure thousands more verses will be 'refined.'

(Matthew 4:4) ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the G.B.'s mouth.’”

(Matthew 4:19) And the G.B. said to them: “Come after us, and we will make you recruiters of men.”

(Matthew 6:9) “‘Our G.B. in Warwick, let your name be sanctified. Let your real estate empire come."

(Matthew 6:24) You cannot slave for the G.B. and for Riches.

(Matthew 6:33) “Keep on, then, seeking first the G.B. and their righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you."

(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to the G.B., ‘Slave, slave,’ will enter into the organization, but only the one doing the will of the G.B. who is in Warwick will. Many will say to them in that day: ‘Slave, slave, did we not prophesy in the G.B.'s name and expel demons in the G.B.'s name, and perform many powerful works in the G.B.'s name?’

(Matthew 10:37) Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for the G.B. is not worthy of the G.B. and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for the G.B.is not worthy of the G.B.

(John 4:22) You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the G.B..

(John 8:31) “If you remain in the G.B.'s word, you are really the G.B.'s disciples,...

(John 12:36) While you have the G.B., exercise faith in the G.B., so that you may become sons of the G.B.”

(John 13:35) By this all will know that you are JW's - if you have love for the G.B.

(John 14:6) “The G.B. is the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through the G.B.

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

@ Fisherman - "That is why it is taking so long. God is waiting for everybody to repent."

How does that work? The world's population increases yearly, and it appears less people are turning to Christianity?

@ vidquin - You references -

YOU who have followed me will also yourselves sit upon twelve thrones.

Thrones - (Gr. thronos) judges i.e. tribunal or bench. (Jesus said they would judge)

a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,

Being priests of the King/High priest would make them a royal priesthood. (not kings themselves)

and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth. (Rev. 5:10)

Rev. 20:6 - "...but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years."

In these last 2 scriptures which you quote, the Greek word βασιλεύς (basileús) does not exclusively mean 'king.' It also describes a leader of the people, prince, commander, lord of the land.

In the original Greek (ignore Bible translations!) Revelation 5:10 says, "and they are to reign upon the earth," not 'over' it, as if they are in some sort of ethereal situation. The meek inherit the earth!

In what capacity? Psalm 45:16 - "...princes in all the earth."

Interestingly, regarding Revelation 20:6, no Bible translation - except the NWT - inserts the word 'king'

All of them - without exception - translate the Greek word βασιλεύς (basileús) as 'reign,' not 'king.'

Bottom line: What justification would any Christian have to claim a share of Christ's kingship & glory?

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

aqwsed12345 - "Satan lost his power with Jesus' redemption, and through grace Christians truly became "kings and priests."

Where did you get the phrase "kings and priests" from? There's only one king.

Certainly not from a Greek concordance. How many kings are needed at any one time?

The NWT plagiarised the false term, because it suited their dogma.