Posts by BoogerMan

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What Does Prayer Actually Do?

by punkofnice in

if you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.

BoogerMan

Very open, diverse, and interesting thoughts on a profound and personal question.

I've never expressed my (bound to be unpopular) thoughts on the subject to anyone before, but here goes:

Prayer demonstrates hope & faith in God Almighty's promises in the scriptures. Those promises assure us that dead loved ones will be resurrected, and all the evils & suffering people have endured will be wiped out & forgotten - and replaced with an eternal life on earth which will be beyond comparison with what we experience now. (Psalm 37:9,10,29: Matthew 5:5; Rev. 21:3,4) Christ Jesus told Christians to pray for that time to come. (Matt. 6:10) The apostle Paul said the scriptures gave us instruction, endurance, hope & comfort. (Rom. 15:4)

Having a faith in these promises - along with agreement with Peter's statement that God is not partial - I do not believe that God answers anyone's prayers for personal needs, other than to endure trials of our faith.

Prayers regarding health, financial, or material needs etc. are not answered for anyone now, otherwise, it's like saying "God favored me and answered my prayers, but you...tough!"

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The JW's greatest dogma...

by BoogerMan in

....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.

rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.

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BoogerMan

A expected, the silence from those defending JW dogma, is deafening.

I hope they use their reasoning abilities and ask themselves, "Who/what convinced me Rutherford & Co. were personally chosen from heaven - WTBTS literature or a divine revelation?

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My Eyes, My Ears ... arrrrrghhhh!!!!

by RolRod in

just saw this ..... https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/uzfp4q/what_in_the_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share.

BoogerMan

LOL

These Gilead graduates have obviously watched the AIRPLANE movie. Brilliant!!

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtGilead/pub-jwb_201712_2_VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMh9hPGNGKE

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The JW's greatest dogma...

by BoogerMan in

....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.

rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.

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BoogerMan

....that God Almighty/Jesus personally selected J.F. Rutherford & WTBTS Inc. as a front for worldwide Christianity, is an affront to worldwide Christians.

The adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.

As with JW's who claim, "Jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.

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Question #1 for JW's to offer an explanation

by BoogerMan in

the r&f jw's are defined by the wtbts as antitypical "foreigners," and as such, are not participants of the new covenant:.

wt 98 2/1 p.19, par.

6 - "further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the law covenant.

BoogerMan

@ Scholar - LOL

Are you a politician in real life? You give a lengthy and unconnected response to avoid addressing two clear statements which blatantly contradict each other - one from the Bible, and the other from your hierarchy.

Please explain why your 'slave' lies about Egypt's foreigners not being participants in the covenant?

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Question #2 for JW's

by BoogerMan in

how could the "two witnesses" mentioned in revelation chapter 11 possibly be j.f.

rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?.

w14 11/15 p. 30 - so in the fulfillment of revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of god’s kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.. watchtower november 15, 2014, p. 30 - revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.. since the wild beast of rev.

BoogerMan

@ Scholar:

This article is too long to submit here, but the highlighted portions are the org's own evidence that its failed prophecy of armageddon & the "rapture" for 1914 (as well as Rutherford's coup) was what caused its biggest problems - not a few guys getting jailed! Many Bible Students (BS) woke up to the B.S.)

w55 3/15 p. 175 Part 6—1914 Date Verified - Toward the end of 1916 Russell began to fail rapidly;he died aboard a train near Pampa, Texas, October 31. Following Brother Russell’s death, (1916) years of crisis set in, producing within the organization the pressures of opposition, judgment and cleansing. (due largely to the predicted armageddon not occurring as predicted!) After such a gigantic build-up of warning witness which had occurred with respect to that prophetic date of 1914, (armageddon) many of the associates became weary of well-doing. Rebelliousness among congregation elders came to the surface, and unhealthy spiritual conditions in general set in,

p.s. Ever heard heard of David Livingstone and his ilk who preached the good news to Africans, Chinese, & other parts of the world in the 19th century – well before JW's ever did?

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Question #2 for JW's

by BoogerMan in

how could the "two witnesses" mentioned in revelation chapter 11 possibly be j.f.

rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?.

w14 11/15 p. 30 - so in the fulfillment of revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of god’s kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.. watchtower november 15, 2014, p. 30 - revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.. since the wild beast of rev.

BoogerMan

How could the "two witnesses" mentioned in Revelation chapter 11 possibly be J.F. Rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?

w14 11/15 p. 30 - So in the fulfillment of Revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of God’s Kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.

Watchtower November 15, 2014, p. 30 - Revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.

Since the wild beast of Rev. 11:7 is claimed to be the United Nations, how could a non-existent organisation (which didn't originate until 1945) fulfill a prophecy 26 years earlier? Even the League of Nations did not come into existence until 1920.

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Question #1 for JW's to offer an explanation

by BoogerMan in

the r&f jw's are defined by the wtbts as antitypical "foreigners," and as such, are not participants of the new covenant:.

wt 98 2/1 p.19, par.

6 - "further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the law covenant.

BoogerMan

The R&F JW's are defined by the WTBTS as antitypical "foreigners," and as such, are not participants of the New Covenant:

wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6 - "Further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the Law covenant. In what way? Not by becoming participants in it, but by submitting to the laws associated with it and benefiting from its arrangements."

Deuteronomy 29:10-15 dismisses this false teaching & shows that foreigners were participants:

10 “All of you are stationed today before Jehovah your God, the heads of your tribes, your elders, your officers, every man of Israel,

11 your children, your wives, and your foreign resident who is in the midst of your camp, from the one gathering your wood to the one drawing your water.

12 You are here in order to enter into the covenant of Jehovah your God and his oath, which Jehovah your God is making with you today

13 in order that he may establish you [all] today as his people and that he may be your God, just as he has promised you and just as he swore to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

14 "Now it is not with you alone that I am making this covenant and this oath,

15 but it is with those standing here with us today before Jehovah our God and with those who are not here with us today."

Rahab and Ruth (as foreigners) were accepted as full members of the nation of Israel. If they hadn't been, the Messianic lineage would have been corrupted by non-Israelites.

As such, the type/anti-type application which downgrades “non-anointed” J.W.'s as being "foreigners" is a deliberate lie, to create an elite group within the org. (w85 3/1 p. 15 par. 15)

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What Ended in 1914?

by BoogerMan in

1913!.

BoogerMan

@ SCHOLAR: Can you give your explanation of this apparent untruth by the org:

wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6 - "Further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the Law covenant. In what way? Not by becoming participants in it but by submitting to the laws associated with it and benefiting from its arrangements."

Deuteronomy 29:10-15 appears to show that foreigners were participants:

10 “All of you are stationed today before Jehovah your God, the heads of your tribes, your elders, your officers, every man of Israel,

11 your children, your wives, and your foreign resident who is in the midst of your camp, from the one gathering your wood to the one drawing your water.

12 You are here in order to enter into the covenant of Jehovah your God and his oath, which Jehovah your God is making with you today

13 in order that he may establish you [all] today as his people and that he may be your God, just as he has promised you and just as he swore to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

14 "Now it is not with you alone that I am making this covenant and this oath,

15 but it is with those standing here with us today before Jehovah our God and with those who are not here with us today."

Rahab and Ruth (as foreigners) were accepted as full members of the nation of Israel.

If they hadn't been, the Messianic lineage would have been corrupted by non-Israelites.

As such, why is there a type/anti-type application which downgrades “non-anointed” J.W.'s as being "foreigners?" (w85 3/1 p. 15 par. 15)

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The Genesis 3:15 woman.

by Fisherman in

genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

BoogerMan

@ Fisherman - Can you provide scriptures to show that (some/all) Christians are going to heaven?