clearly inferred & proven by scriptures - though not specifically stated - that the 3 were one & the same essence!
(exodus 2:24) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 3:16) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 6:3) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 6:8) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 33:1) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (numbers 32:11) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (deuteronomy 1:8) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (deuteronomy 6:10) abraham, isaac and jacob.
(deuteronomy 9:5) abraham, isaac and jacob.
Many of the so-called "church fathers" were nothing more than power-hungry religionists who competed with each other to gain prominence on the Christianity gravy-train by pushing theological interpretations & fantasies which would enamour the political classes and appeal to the divergent masses.
Outcome: A religion created & run by the Holy Roman Empire - until Mr. Luther intervened. š
clearly inferred & proven by scriptures - though not specifically stated - that the 3 were one & the same essence!
(exodus 2:24) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 3:16) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 6:3) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 6:8) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (exodus 33:1) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (numbers 32:11) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (deuteronomy 1:8) abraham, isaac and jacob.. (deuteronomy 6:10) abraham, isaac and jacob.
(deuteronomy 9:5) abraham, isaac and jacob.
Clearly inferred & proven by scriptures - though not specifically stated - that the 3 were one & the same essence!
(Exodus 2:24) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Exodus 3:16) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Exodus 6:3) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Exodus 6:8) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Exodus 33:1) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Numbers 32:11) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Deuteronomy 1:8) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Deuteronomy 6:10) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
(Deuteronomy 9:5) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
(Deuteronomy 9:27) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Deuteronomy 29:13) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Deuteronomy 30:20) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
(Deuteronomy 34:4) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(2 Kings 13:23) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(Jeremiah 33:26) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
watchtower other sheep.
and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(john 10:16).
At John 10:16 Jesus said, āAnd I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd."
The Scriptures identify these 'other sheep' - beyond all reasonable doubt.
Jesus had previously given his disciples the order, āDo not go off into the road of the nations, (Gentiles) and do not enter into a Samaritan city; but, instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matt. 10:5,6)
āI was not sent forth to any but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.ā (Matt. 15:24)
On both of these occasions, Jesus identifies the only group of people to whom he was to preach - the Jews!
This fulfilled Daniel's prophecy (Daniel 9:25-27) about the old covenant being kept operative for the Jews for 42 months after Jesus' death.
Only after that time period had elapsed would the Gentiles be called in.
Paul said, "For I am not ashamed of the good news; it is, in fact, Godās power for salvation to everyone having faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek." (Gentiles) (Rom. 1:16)
He repeated this truth - "for the Jew first and also for the Greek." (Rom. 2:10)
The Insight Book very concisely summarises the identity of the 'other sheep': "Jesusā sacrificial death on the torture stake also provided the basis for canceling the Mosaic Law, which divided the Jews from the non-Jews. Therefore, upon becoming Christians, both peoples could be at peace with God and with one another. The apostle Paul wrote: ā[Jesus] is our peace, he who made the two parties one and destroyed the wall in between that fenced them off. By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, that he might create the two peoples in union with himself into one new man and make peace; and that he might fully reconcile both peoples in one body to God through the torture stake". (it-2 p. 592 Peace)
Therefore,
Jesus' 'other sheep'
(non-Jews)
would unite with the Jews as
one flock, under
one shepherd. (John
10:16)
By stating that they would become "one flock, one shepherd," Jesus showed there would be no distinctions or classes amongst his sheep. He said, "All you are brothers". (Matt. 23:8)
The true context of Jesus' words at John 10:16 become abundantly clear by reading from John 9:40.
Jesus was speaking with the Jews and Pharisees who were following him around.
He was not having a personal chat with his alleged ālittle flock" of apostles/disciples.
From that verse onwards, Jesus is speaking of all those who could become his sheep, starting with 'this fold', (the Jews) the people to whom he was addressing.
The
apostle Paul's words to the Ephesian congregation expands on the
details of Jesus' āone flockā:
(Ephesians 4:4, 5) One body (Christians) there is, and one spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
There wouldn't be two hopes (heaven & earth) and there wouldn't be two different baptisms.
At their water baptism, all Christians would figuratively ādieā to their former sinful ways and spirit, and henceforth, be impelled by God's Holy spirit. (Romans 6:2,4,6,7,8,10, & 11)
(John
3:5)
Jesus answered: āMost truly I say to you, unless anyone is born
from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
jw's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the k.h.
and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the k.h.. https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl.
remove the b in the borg.
It's not just Sanderson who's flaunting a beard, they've even got the JW doing the sign language to grow one! š³āāļø
jw's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the k.h.
and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the k.h.. https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl.
remove the b in the borg.
JW's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the K.H. and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the K.H.
https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl
Remove the B in the borg
two doses - two months apart.
big pharma is laughing all the way to the bank.. i remember sean connery talking about his shingles - they were next to his lp's.. he also boasted about owning the world's largest set of playing cards.
big deal!.
Two doses - two months apart.
Big pharma is laughing all the way to the bank.
I remember Sean Connery talking about his shingles - they were next to his LP's.
He also boasted about owning the world's largest set of playing cards. Big deal!
looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from āthe epistle of barnabasā (70-130ad).
@ SEABREEZE - In your thinking/belief, do you think that anyone who's suffering in hell will have the option to ask this god of eternal pain and suffering to destroy them outright, in order to end their horrendous torture?
if the faithful evil slave says it, it must be true!.
w78 8/15 p. 31 - "accordingly, the present period is the conclusion of the entire wicked system of things, which will be climaxed by a ātribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation.ā....in fact, it will even be greater than the flood of noahās time when the entire āworld of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.ā.
Perhaps I should have put this in the HUMOUR section - because the org is a joke.
if the faithful evil slave says it, it must be true!.
w78 8/15 p. 31 - "accordingly, the present period is the conclusion of the entire wicked system of things, which will be climaxed by a ātribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation.ā....in fact, it will even be greater than the flood of noahās time when the entire āworld of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.ā.
If the faithful evil slave says it, it must be true!
w78 8/15 p. 31 - "Accordingly, the present period is the conclusion of the entire wicked system of things, which will be climaxed by a ātribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation.ā....In fact, it will even be greater than the flood of Noahās time when the entire āworld of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.ā
this is not a verse that iāve seen feature heavily in trinitarian debates but it seems to me it presents a problem for the trinity.
if there are any around iād be interested to know your perspective, or anything you can find on the meaning and how it doesnāt contradict the trinity.
the verse says:.
@ aqwsed12345 - "the Father is "greater" because He is the source and origin = principle) of the Godhead."
I thought the 3 trinity "entitities" were co-equal & co-eternal in power and substance! How can you heretically dismiss the basis of the trinity by introducing contradictory wordings which assert some kind of hierarchy between them?
The Catholic Encyclopedia's summary of the trinity - "It's a mystery" - is bang on!
It's a mystery why anyone believes such unscriptural theology, concocted by Rome.
