scene: a man and his wife talking before they prepare their watchtower study together.
me: sweetheart, i love you so much.
let me ask you something though.. her: ok sure babe.. me: hypothetically say i was an abusive husband..... her: your not though.. me: i know, but just hypothetically if i was an abusive husband and i hit you what would you do?.
Siam: When I downloaded that artical 2-3 months back I showed that paragraph to my daughter and she was surprised they would put that in there.
But as we all know Most jdubs will hardly even notice it. Some sisters will notice it and keep quiet because what the G.B. tells them is ultimate gospel.
Sad very sad. But on the bright side, I hope your study is productive with her and it goes as you envisioned it.
Kojack
Hell, let's cut to the chase, the real first president should have been Russell's wife Maria. She was the real brains of the operation.
She was the "Associate editor" of Zion's watchtower. She authored and edited watch tower articals. Co authored the first four books of the Studies in the scriptures. C.T.Russell was brain dead in my opinion.
Kojack
let's call it what it is - disagreeing with the watchtower bible and tract society after baptism into the cult.
in no way is the literal definition of the word "apostasy" applicable to what the cult is using the word for.
it is a buzz word that scares the crap out of the rank and file and keeps them from communicating with those who have become enlightened about the cults lies.. we here on jwn have accepted the wt label, "apostates", with a sense of humor, such as calling our get togethers apostafests, etc.. but we are actually the "enlightened"..
We are apostates, just like our leader CHRIST. He didn't go along with the then religious system that existed and they hated him for it, just like the jdubs hate us for not agreeing with the G.B. and the cult tower and asleep mags.
Kojack
Len: That's right! In March 1879 Russell married Maria Frances ackley; in may, because of doctrinal differences, he withdrew his support from N.H. Barbour and the herald of the morning rag.
Kojack
Just received this book in the mail and you can't make this stuff up. It's awesome. Talk about exposing these morons it's incredible. You guys have to buy this book.
Kojack
jesus said in the gospels: when you see jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies then the appointed time of the gentiles has arrived,so it wasn't the first attack in 587 bce.
but jesus said the words,,,,"will be,points to the 2nd attack in about the year 70 ad.
,yes into the future people"!so the idiots that dreamt up 607 bce.
We can only hope that after 2014 people will wake up and see the light. Hopefully before they waste any more time.
Kojack
in 2009, they reported 118 branches.
in 2011, they reported 98 branches.
a net loss of 20 branches in 2 years.. they are selling off kingdom halls, here and there - sometimes packing several congregations into one hall where one per building was the rule.not compassionate where weather or other traveling factors could injure publishers..... and they're selling off some assembly halls, too.. brooklyn et al is being sold - and you already know about all the many cutbacks, layoffs and the downsizing of magazines.. why?.
Clarity: Your hypothesis sounds very realistic to me. Could also be used as a mass suicide building for the BORG faithful in the future, and of course the G.B. will be long gone drinking margarita's on the beach in the Caribbean.
Kojack
yo peoples.. .
i attended the mtschool at the tender age of 23 in the uk.
it was the thing for ambitious young (theocratic) men apparently.
Well, I'm sure NOW that you know it to be a load of B.S.
Sorry you had to waste your time but I'm sure it was an eye opener.
Kojack
my wife was told a brother was going to be disfellowshiped, "how do you know this is going to happen?
" sister so-so said "he was not repentant or humble to the brother's kindness.
" instead of engaging into a heated debate, she knew who the leak was, so-so's husband.
Good morning guys!!! B.A. Has a good point about confessing to SOME elders in the body. When I was an elder there were 4 elders whose wives were regular pioneers ( ELDERETTES) as they are called and they make it their aim to manipulate their husbands to tell them juicy tid-bits.
My wife,now my ex would offer up all kinds kinky sex she otherwise would'nt do to get me to tell her confidential matters about judicial committee findings.
Very tempting but, my conscience wouldn't allow me, and of course no kinky sex.
Out of my BOE you better not trust them to keep your secrets. With the exception of another elder you could torture him and he wouldn't give up anything confidential, his wife would get soooo pissed. That brother I would trust with my life.
So here is the deal. If you must confess your sins confess to Jehovah not to any man. For only God can forgive.
Kojack
