Just to be clear, Christ is not speaking at 1 John. It is a letter from the apostle John.
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The Bible's huge implicit contradiction on the subject of love for God vs love for your fellow man.
by Island Man in"if anyone makes the statement: i love god, and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar.
for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving god, whom he has not seen" - 1 john 4:20. here the bible implies that it is far easier to love a visible person than an invisible one.
therefore if one lacks love for a visible person, how much more so he must lack love for the invisible god.
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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!
by Kulotti79 inhello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
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Experienced Attorney's and Paralegals Needed at Bethel!
by Atlantis infrom (the source) 2015, january 13, boe.. .. .
.. .. atlantis!.
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I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.
by cognisonance inall i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.
i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.
they can remain jws for all i care.
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The construct of the doctrine of DF'ng sees it as a forgone fact that shunning will bring the person "to their senses."
What if, however, the person will never be brought back? Then continued shunning is logically an effort in futility.
Maybe this appeal to logic will help in your parents case. What your father has to overcome though is the very real possibility that he will at the least lose his position within the cong. and quite possibly be DF'd himself if he refuses to shun you.
Loving Christianity at it's best indeed.
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Good Netflix shows to watch
by Simon inin the long winter nights you need some good tv shows to watch while you wait for the eternity between seasons of game of thrones.. we've watched marco polo (pretty good) and have just started watching orange is the new black which is not at all what i imagined (didn't know it was funny!).
house of cards is on the list too as we've heard good things about that.. anyone have any others that are worth seeing?.
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Is child abuse becoming the 'Benghazi' of exJW's?
by Simon ini've been noticing a trend recently that seems to becoming prevalent in posts which i think is a little sad and counter productive where, whatever the topic is actually about, someone will be keen to remind everyone about child abuse issues within the wts.. any sort of abuse, especially that of children, is a very serious issue but i'm not sure it's prevention is necessarily best-served by brining it up at every opportunity.
it ends up looking a little like the republican party's obsession with benghazi where they harp on about it to such an extent that people have become blind to it and it almost becomes a punchline.
people become less and less convinced of the claims because they hear them too often.. trying to turn any discussion into including comments on it, however well-intentioned, starts to look misguided at some point.
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Agreed
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Is child abuse becoming the 'Benghazi' of exJW's?
by Simon ini've been noticing a trend recently that seems to becoming prevalent in posts which i think is a little sad and counter productive where, whatever the topic is actually about, someone will be keen to remind everyone about child abuse issues within the wts.. any sort of abuse, especially that of children, is a very serious issue but i'm not sure it's prevention is necessarily best-served by brining it up at every opportunity.
it ends up looking a little like the republican party's obsession with benghazi where they harp on about it to such an extent that people have become blind to it and it almost becomes a punchline.
people become less and less convinced of the claims because they hear them too often.. trying to turn any discussion into including comments on it, however well-intentioned, starts to look misguided at some point.
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I think it's seen as a stone to throw at the WTS - that is their passion.
I agree. As it is with most of us here.
Every religion, civic group, charity etc has a percentage of child abusers among their ranks. That doesn't make the Boy Scouts or the Salvation Army essentially bad. The Watchtower is essentially bad for a host of reasons that have nothing to do with child abuse.
While the JW's response to this tragedy is heinous and while the victims' pain is enormous, there are probably more victims due to the policies of disfellowshipping, blood transfusions and homophobia whose pain is just as real.
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Is Watchtower's position on smoking consistent with its position on masturbation?
by Island Man inwatchtower considers masturbation to be a form of uncleanness but not a disfellowshipping offence because the bible says nothing about masturbation.
a jw who masturbates is likely to face no more than losing privileges in the congregation.. like masturbation, smoking is considered by jws to be a form of uncleannes and like masturbation, the bible says nothing about it.
but a jw who smokes faces disfellowshipping.. yes, smoking is known to be deleterious to a person's health whereas the jury is still out on the adverse health effects of masturbation.
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If you are smoling with your right hand and tugging with your left does it cancel out the misdeed?
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Surprise ! Surprise ! 2015 Arrives and NO Armageddon or World's " End " - Go Figure
by flipper ini guess 99.9 % of ex-jw's here could have predicted as much .
armageddon didn't happen in 1914. it didn't happen in 1925. it didn't happen in 1975. and it did not happen in 2014. since the wt society first predicted a world's end when their organization started in 1879 - 126 years have passed which according to any dictionary in any human language 126 years comprises of 4 separate generations each totaling 30 years each.
plus 6 years into a 5th generation.
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Big Eyes Movie Article
by jerryjax99 inhey everyone, i am new here to the site and wanted to share this article along with a personal experience with her.. .
http://national.deseretnews.com/article/3089/the-real-life-artist-portrayed-in-big-eyes-credits-her-newfound-faith-for-helping-her-take-a-stand.html.
i was able to meet margaret keane in pittsburgh, pa at the corapolis congregation back around 2002 or so.
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Heard an NPR piece on this film a couple of days ago. My sister was given one of these originals and I'd imagine its worth something. She proudly displays it and tells anyone who asks that Margaret is a wit. Who cares? My personal opinion is that it's art like the 70's fiber optic lamps were "art." Factory line, kitschy and over-hyped are words that come to mind.
The film's getting pretty good reviews though. I'm sure as a personal interest story that it is a tale worth telling. How she let her husband take credit (and money) for her work, to me, is telling about the mind-set of someone who gets involved with a cult that suppresses the value of women.
I'd definitely see it just to watch the performances of Christoph Waltz and Amy Adams.