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  "Religion gives us the Why"

  by Phizzy in

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  i have heard this nonsense said by many believers, especially when science conflicts with their belief, they say:.

  " well, science may tell us how we got here, religion tells us why we are here".

  does religion tell us that ?

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  ctrwtf

  Upron Sinclair wrote, "In its true sense Religion is the most fundamental of the soul's impulses, the impassioned love of life, the feeling of its preciousness, the desire to foster and further it. In that sense every thinking man must be religious; in that sense Religion is a perpetually self-renewing force, the very nature of our being."

  Or in other words, one doesn't need to be a part of a Religion to be religious or spiritual or moral.  Love life and make it better for yourself, your loved ones and mankind in general.
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  HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".

  in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".

  so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?

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  You're all wrong.  It's the red phone.
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  Upton Sinclair "The Profits of Religion."

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a great read.

  what's interesting is that this was written in 1917. right about the time when the wt was being born.

  he doesn't mention jw's directly but does mention the millerites.

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  Thanks OC  Sorry I missed that on my perusal.  I'm only a hundred or so pages in.  He definitely doesn't hold back in his derision for Pastor Russell.
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  Upton Sinclair "The Profits of Religion."

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a great read.

  what's interesting is that this was written in 1917. right about the time when the wt was being born.

  he doesn't mention jw's directly but does mention the millerites.

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  ctrwtf

  What a great read. What's interesting is that this was written in 1917. Right about the time when the WT was being born. He doesn't mention JW's directly but does mention the Millerites. 

  Sinclair leaves no doubt about how he feels about organized religion. For anyone waking up he gives a unique perspective inasmuch as he observes that all religions are basically the same. "institutions having fixed dogmas and "revelations", creeds and rituals, with an administering caste claiming supernatural sanction." (read GB) 

  He continues, "It is the thesis of this book that "religion" in this sense is a source of income to parasites, and the natural ally of every form of oppression and exploitation."

  Didn't someone once write "religion is a snare and a racket?"

  
  
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  Counting service time in a creative way

  by nevaagain in

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  2. friends

  couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

  i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

  they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

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  ctrwtf

  I was always a fan of the Auto-Three rule.

  If you show up for meeting for service at 9AM you get the Auto-Three
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  Jw still believe 4026 B.C.E as Adams creation...?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. beliefs

  i was doing some "research" and came across jw articles that all talk about 4026 b.c.e as adams creation.

  it even went as far as to state, "there are no actual records of ancient man, his writing, agriculture, and other pursuits, extending into the past before 4026 b.c.e., the date of adams creation.

  since the scriptures outline mans history from the very creation of the first human pair, there can be no such thing as prehistoric man.

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  This was and is the main reason for my awakening. No Garden of Eden. No directly created homo sapiens pair 4000 years ago. No original sin. No "bruise you in the heel" kingdom covenant. No nothing.

  They may as well build a belief system based on a flat earth. 

  
  
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  The Bible's huge implicit contradiction on the subject of love for God vs love for your fellow man.

  by Island Man in

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  2. bible

  "if anyone makes the statement: i love god, and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar.

  for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving god, whom he has not seen" - 1 john 4:20. here the bible implies that it is far easier to love a visible person than an invisible one.

  therefore if one lacks love for a visible person, how much more so he must lack love for the invisible god.

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  Just to be clear, Christ is not speaking at 1 John.  It is a letter from the apostle John.
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  I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

  by Kulotti79 in

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  hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

  and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

  lol.

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  Run the other way....
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  Experienced Attorney's and Paralegals Needed at Bethel!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  from (the source) 2015, january 13, boe.. .. .

  .. .. atlantis!.

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  ctrwtf

  Free legal advice...............you get what you pay for.
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  I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

  i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

  they can remain jws for all i care.

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  The construct of the doctrine of DF'ng sees it as a forgone fact that shunning will bring the person "to their senses."

  What if, however, the person will never be brought back?  Then continued shunning is logically an effort in futility.

  Maybe this appeal to logic will help in your parents case.  What your father has to overcome though is the very real possibility that he will at the least lose his position within the cong. and quite possibly be DF'd himself if he refuses to shun you.

  Loving Christianity at it's best indeed.