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  Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.

  by pleaseresearch in

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  counties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.

  even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.

  no such thing can happen.

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  And just think, this all happened just six thousand years ago!
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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  I remember going over the "questions" in the Lamp Book.at the age of 12. After all, armageddon was nigh.

  Later on, I felt bad because I just got dunked, never having gone to JG in prayer and dedicating my life to do his will. Who knows, maybe this is my loophole? At 16 I recall telling my dad, the PO at the time, that I didn't agree with all the wacky teachings, (the UN, the numerology, the shifting dates, the blood doctrine) but thought it was the "best way of living." Oddly enough that didn't even phase him. I think he agreed. Toward the end of his life, although we never spoke of it, I could see his doubts.

  In adulthood, I really grappled with the murder of billions so JG could prove himself right. Serving as an elder, I had a front row seat to the backstabbing, self serving, even criminal behavior of fellow elders. I began to see how my kids were being forced to do something they didn't want and that was pretty much the last straw.

  In answer to your question, it was definitely cumulative and took decades. Thanks to the internet, now people can find out immediately that their doubts and concerns are valid. Perhaps this will embolden some to leave more quickly.
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  Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

  in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

  of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

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  I agree. Ex-JW's (self included from time to time) suffer from a form of PTSD when they feel the need to defend an opinion or position that they once held as axiomatic.

  The reality is that absolute pacifism is not an option in the world we live in. There are principles worth fighting and dying for.
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  Aliens

  by Jayk in

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  i thought i was weird that i believe in aliens.

  until i remembered that people believe there is a god..

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  Check out the NYTimes article this week, Apparently the air force believes in aliens as well. Or at least UFO's.

  Not so silly after all.......
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  Whole families leaving the Org has increased

  by pomo6780 in

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  2. experiences

  i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

  some include former elders and ministerial servants.

  i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

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  My whole family left. I missed alot of meetings for work. After awhile work became an excuse to miss more meetings. Collectively we awoke to TTATT. I remember sitting in the living room and discussing how we all felt and then we just stopped attending. Went to one memorial in 2008. That was it. Never been back and never will go back.
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  Ministry Ideaz - Online JW shop

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ministry ideaz is an online shop that sells products aimed at the jw market.

  apparently the owner is a guy called greg holland.bridget azaz (youtube account) has posted a mirror of a video which attempts to disclose the relationship between this business and the watchtower society.

  it shows a photo of greg holland standing in the watchtower broadcasting studio and a claim that he was one of a very small number of people specially invited to a four day opening of warwick.it also shows a photo of gb losch, his wife and her family with claims that they were brought to equidor on holiday by greg holland.another claim is that greg admits that there is a contract between his business and the watchtower.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqfwsj6m0muthey announced the opening of their first physical store in july, 2017. visit us at our new location in pine bush, ny.

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  Isn't that suit a little tight fitting? Maybe Losch likes it that way.
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  the life saving message

  by jookbeard in

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  the life saving message of death and gloom brought to a town centre near to you!.

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  Looks like my living room after a gigantic sunday dinner.
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  WARWICK

  by Phoebe in

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  as it's highly unlikely i'll ever go to warwick, i found lloyd evans latest video fascinating.

  i had no idea that the whole 'museum' (if you can call it that) was so big.

  notice the credit card machines by the entrance.

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  I'm sure there were a few sphincters at Warwick that puckered when this was released. A member of the A-Team roaming freely about and putting together a documentary under their noses? I guess the holy spirit must have been on vacay that day.

  I was surprised at the amount of history on display, although sanitized, it wouldn't take much for someone with an average intellect to ask questions about 1914 etc. Although this assumes there are those on tour willing to take off their blinders.

  Bethel has come a long way since I was there in the early eighties. I doubt that any of the present staff would care to live in a three man room in the plywood jungle.
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  What's changed since I left in 2006?

  by Jehovah lol in

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  i think i made a thread like this a couple of years ago but i can't remember what was said and i'd rather have a new discussion anyway.. what's different in the wts since i left it behind in 2006?.

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  I think it's telling that after 11 years you care what's new. I'm in the same boat. I left in 2008 and still haunt this board. That's the power of a cult. Who knows? Maybe in another 10 years we won't feel the need.....

  Cheers to you!
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  Christmas music

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i made a classic christmas music station on pandora.

  it's great being able to listen to this type of music at this time of the year without my conscience bothering me or in fear of being killed over it😁.

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  Love it St George. They are just too articulate when they get to "pumpkin." Personally I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin so I'd rather have f%#ckin pie.