hi, i'm newly awakened and just needing reassurance that the wt is indeed a mind-control cult.
i have two lovely children (under 5) and a husband who is currently asleep..
Hi Oogie and Welcome
Your suspicions are well founded. I was born in and it took me well into my forties to break the spell as it were.
You will find here a community of thoughtful and caring people who can guide you through to a better place.
My best to you, your little ones and your hubby who will no doubt wake up.
props to raypublisher for starting a thread in "beliefs" re the revelation book.
i didn't want to hijack it because my remembrance of this tome of wisdom has not so much to do with specific content.
rather, thinking about the revelation book brought about a flashback of having to conduct the book study.. it's hard to describe the feeling of remorse and sense of time wasted in the borg.
Props to Raypublisher for starting a thread in "beliefs" re the Revelation book. I didn't want to hijack it because my remembrance of this tome of wisdom has not so much to do with specific content. Rather, thinking about the Revelation book brought about a flashback of having to conduct the book study.
It's hard to describe the feeling of remorse and sense of time wasted in the Borg. But remembering conducting the BS, (isn't that a coincidence) brings about what is commonly known today as the douche chills. After reading the utterly inane paragraph, you ask the question. What does the locust army represent? Silence.....................So what does the locust army represent? Finally someone would read the sentence that was just read and we could go on. Blecch!
Nevermind the fact that the so called locust army was the stinging message of the JW's In reality most people when asked today about the Jehovah's witnesses would ask, Jehovah's what? Some sting there. But I digress.
Now, I have two children. One a grown adult, 24 years old. Next I have a 13 yr old. They like to discuss, sometimes very enthusiasticallly, which is the better superhero? Batman or Superman? In said conversation, they may enumerate each characters powers, their background, their philosophy and emotional state. Usually Batman comes out on top. Sometimes this goes on for an hour or more. Everyone laughing and contributing, then it's time to wash the dishes. My point is that this discussion is as connected to reality as the Revelation book. And it's far more entertaining.
It's still hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that there are still people that believe this shit as if it were as real as the sun rising in the east. That there is a "loving god" that will kill you if you don't or can't see it his way.
So now on to Alanis Morisette. About the time I started to fade she released the song "Thank You"
It's lyrics are in part:
thank you india
thank you providence
thank you disillusionment
thank you nothingness
thank you clarity
thank you silence
the moment I let go of it was the moment I got more than I could handle
the moment I jumped off of it was the moment I touched down
Ten years into my fade these lyrics have more meaning than ever. Now I can think about what is really real in life. Like what a lame superhero is Aquaman? What does he do anyway?
Thanks for reading my ramblings. Peace to you and yours.
props to raypublisher for starting a thread in "beliefs" re the revelation book.
i didn't want to hijack it because my remembrance of this tome of wisdom has not so much to do with specific content.
rather, thinking about the revelation book brought about a flashback of having to conduct the book study.. it's hard to describe the feeling of remorse and sense of time wasted in the borg.
Props to Raypublisher for starting a thread in "beliefs" re the Revelation book. I didn't want to hijack it because my remembrance of this tome of wisdom has not so much to do with specific content. Rather, thinking about the Revelation book brought about a flashback of having to conduct the book study.
It's hard to describe the feeling of remorse and sense of time wasted in the Borg. But remembering conducting the BS, (isn't that a coincidence) brings about what is commonly known today as the douche chills. After reading the utterly inane paragraph, you ask the question. What does the locust army represent? Silence.....................So what does the locust army represent? Finally someone would read the sentence that was just read and we could go on. Blecch!
Nevermind the fact that the so called locust army was the stinging message of the JW's In reality most people when asked today about the Jehovah's witnesses would ask, Jehovah's what? Some sting there. But I digress.
Now, I have two children. One a grown adult, 24 years old. Next I have a 13 yr old. They like to discuss, sometimes very enthusiasticallly, which is the better superhero? Batman or Superman? In said conversation, they may enumerate each characters powers, their background, their philosophy and emotional state. Usually Batman comes out on top. Sometimes this goes on for an hour or more. Everyone laughing and contributing, then it's time to wash the dishes. My point is that this discussion is as connected to reality as the Revelation book. And it's far more entertaining.
It's still hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that there are still people that believe this shit as if it were as real as the sun rising in the east. That there is a "loving god" that will kill you if you don't or can't see it his way.
So now on to Alanis Morisette. About the time I started to fade she released the song "Thank You"
It's lyrics are in part:
thank you india
thank you providence
thank you disillusionment
thank you nothingness
thank you clarity
thank you silence
the moment I let go of it was the moment I got more than I could handle
the moment I jumped off of it was the moment I touched down
Ten years into my fade these lyrics have more meaning than ever. Now I can think about what is really real in life. Like what a lame superhero is Aquaman? What does he do anyway?
Thanks for reading my ramblings. Peace to you and yours.
i'm hoping those of you in the jwn community may be able to help me out.
an acquaintance (of legal drinking age) may soon be sitting for jc under the charge of "drunkenness".. to those of you who have direct experience either serving on a jc, or being the subject of a jc related to the misuse of alcohol:.
- could you provide a list of questions that were asked of the accused?.
I sat on more JC's than I can count. Never one for drunkenness. At Bethel I scraped more people off the bathroom floor than I want to recall. Who did your friend piss off? This sounds personal. Have your friend try to ask without being offensive, "where is the proof?" Maybe it would be good for him to remind the elders that someone once said "he that is blameless cast the first stone."
i wake up this mornign to find this on my facebook page... instant deletion.
if 1000 years is as one day...the following is true....if 1000 years is as one day...the following is true..... .
someone did the math, of the 1000 years = one day equation.
39 hrs and 45 minutes later he allowed wicked spirit forces to kick around humans for shits and giggles. Then he is a hero for stopiing it?
I'll bet my next paycheck that whoever posted this drivel to your facebook is also heavy into watching "The Bachelorette."
Brain dead, unthinking nonsense
i started fading probably 8 years ago.
completely inactive for 5 years now.
fortunately my entire family including the dw also has faded.. one thing that has been hard to erase however is praying before meals.
Thanks to all for your fun replies. Esp. Perry. God Bless indeed!
Pof Nice DW = Dear Wife(y)
i started fading probably 8 years ago.
completely inactive for 5 years now.
fortunately my entire family including the dw also has faded.. one thing that has been hard to erase however is praying before meals.
I started fading probably 8 years ago. Completely inactive for 5 years now. Fortunately my entire family including the DW also has faded.
One thing that has been hard to erase however is praying before meals. Now I realize that for godly people everywhere this is a lifelong ritual. It is a symbol of humility before god and a sense of thankfulness for what is provided.. This is probably why it has taken so long for we, as a family to forego this custom. The kids, for years now been uncomfortable with it. The DW still clings to it, until this week when I was informed that it was no longer necessary for her. Yaaay!
For me, prayer before meals is somewhat of an excercise in superiority. "Thanks god for taking care of me while there are people in the inner city and elsewhere enjoying a top ramen or less. While I deserve all this goodness, these other people not so much." Plus, my journey has led me away from the belief in god. (Thanks WT) So from now on, if I pray, it will be thus:
Thanks Linda Greenlaw for the highly sustainable line caught swordfish. Thanks to my sister in-law (still in) for the delicious salsa recipe that adorns my swordfish taco. Thanks to the folks of PouillyFuse for the chardonnay that washed it all down. Thanks to my family, the funnest, best people in the world for the delightful company. And thanks to all of you for helping make this journey possible.
i know this article has been discussed, re-hashed upside down in past threads.
but there were at least 2 points i discovered in here that i felt were pertinent and important to bring out concerning the total control and narcissistic tendencies that these wt leaders possess on the governing body, i.e.
alleged " faithful slave " .
EVERYONE knows that when the sisters ascend to heaven they are spirit creatures who leave behind their vaginas, menstrual cramps and scatterbrained thinking.......I'm waiting for the fallout.
Seriously, this is the thinking of the wits as to why sisters are restricted here and not in heaven. Utter BS
Nice thread Mr Flipper
i had two close friends in the org.
one is in her early thirties and got married last year and the other one is single and in her late twenties.
after reading coc, i couldn't help but feel sad at how ray and his wife felt regret at putting the religion first and not having any children.
This subject has always touched a nerve with me. Some time ago as a family we aere just having a normal evening. Cooking drinking laughing and playing cards. For some reason I looked at my two beautiful children and thought about the thousands of children never born because "woe be it to the pregnant woman." what sick and twisted BS. A wave of sadness overwashed me.
Now I wonder what loving god would dangle a carrot before people for 100's of years? Causing people to forego the best life can offer? Marriage, children and family. I thought god is postponing the end to save lives. What about all the lives never experienced? What utter nonsense!
Sorry about the double post. I'm away on business staying in a convention city. Had a witness citing at my hotel which is kind of surprising since it's a little upscale not the usual dump (read Quality Inn, Day's Inn, Clarion etc.) First couple I saw was retirement age, a little on the hefty side, badges in full view unloading their car. I caught a glimpse of their luggage which contained maybe half dozen bottles of wine. No doubt partying after 8 hours of mind numbing propaganda.
Couple number two I would bet were pioneers. Driving a rusted out Subaru station wagon. Both looked absolutely disgusted with each other as they harriedly unloaded their luggage. Did I mention that it was at least 100 degrees? Brother pioneer in spite of the heat was wearing a full very mussed looking suit. I know you get the picture after having attended a few conventions yourselves.
It reminded me though, that such outings are absolute bullshit. I remember vividly from the time I was a child that both my parents and siblings could hardly wait for the program to be over. All day long you'd sit in a hot overcrowded stadium in chairs that were meant for a three hour baseball game at most. At least at a ball game you could wear shorts and a T shirt and drink beer and eat hot dogs. At an assembly you got up a zero dark thirty and waited at the gate to save a seat that wasn't in the blazing sun, praying to a god that doesn't exist that hopefully no one would steal your seats.
Then, six hours later you could eat a lukewarm sandwich and walk aimlessly around for two hours "fellowshipping." The highlight of the afternoon would be a thunderstorm that would immediatley be followed by full sunshine rendering the entire venue a gigantic Turkish bath. No wonder the wits are raging alkies. After a day like that, I drank myself into oblivion on more than one occasion. Why why why?
The best part of the whole convention starts months before the actual date. You kill yourself to get to the TMS/Service Meeting in order to spend the entire evening being told how to make a hotel reservation and what to pack for lunch.
I was thinking about the couples I saw last night and was really feeling sorry for them. I was just like them once ago. Today I wonder how could I be so fooled. I wondered how many are putting themselves through such useless agony? Then I remembered a saying from my Dad. "If you're dumb you gotta be tough."
