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  Not a sympathizer

  by Richard Oliver in

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  i think everyone here is under the impression that i am a watchtower sympathizer, i am not.

  i just like facts and when people say things, which are their opinions but that facts point out as not being true, than that is when i get so motivated to make a comment.

  i have read posts here, listened to six screens and read jwsurvey and seen things that people say, which are opinion, but pass them off as fact.. there are legitimate things that people on here and former jws have concerns over without manipulating what is said or trying to pass off opinion as a fact.

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  Dude, if we're talking facts it'll take you an hour just to get to the Tappan Zee from Brooklyn Heights. Just sayin....
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  Fade Advice Please

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got reinstated in the last month and had my record cards sent to a new congregation.

  i went to a few meetings until i heard the cards had been sent and now i am looking to do a complete fade, no longer go at all.

  the new congregation does not know me well and further away from where i live so i am hoping they will give up trying to make contact quickly.. any advice on do's and dont's and what to expect?.

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  Hi Zed, love the film reference.

  Do try to change addresses as soon as you can. They may try to visit you at home.

  Do not reply to any emails, texts or phone messages.

  Do enjoy the rest of your life!

  Remember; Hamburgers are the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.
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  Of love and witnessing carts

  by oppostate in

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  2. entertainment

  "well, there you go, you come to love a drawing then you find out it's true".

  so says this jw post on facebook:.

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  He looks like he's wearing "tight pants." Maybe she should move on.
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  Oasis Bible Tours?

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've just discovered (on instagram) this group that leads the gullible on "faith strengthening" tours of the met.. i wondered what would happen if any member of the tour group brought up that the museum has on display artifacts that clearly throw off the timeline of the story of eden and two magically appearing humans.. http://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/curatorial-departments/egyptian-art.

  i found that once i abandoned the wits, my visits to the met became more inspiring because i began to really look at the human endeavor and spirit of the artists and what they created over tens of thousands of years.

  while not particularly religious at this point in my life, i can still be awstruck by the vast collection of paintings, sculptures and jewelry that were inspired by religious belief.. i think it's incredibly sleazy that these tour operators take advantage of an institution like the met when the religion they support calls for the destruction of these works of art as well as the entire human existence that created it.

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  I've just discovered (on instagram) this group that leads the gullible on "faith strengthening" tours of the Met.

  I wondered what would happen if any member of the tour group brought up that the museum has on display artifacts that clearly throw off the timeline of the story of Eden and two magically appearing humans.

  http://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/curatorial-departments/egyptian-art

  I found that once I abandoned the wits, my visits to the Met became more inspiring because I began to really look at the human endeavor and spirit of the artists and what they created over tens of thousands of years. While not particularly religious at this point in my life, I can still be awstruck by the vast collection of paintings, sculptures and jewelry that were inspired by religious belief.

  I think it's incredibly sleazy that these tour operators take advantage of an institution like the Met when the religion they support calls for the destruction of these works of art as well as the entire human existence that created it. Shame on them.
  
  
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  Question on the Special Order... document and its implications

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times on this forum posts have been made about the "order of special full-time servants" in the wts and the document that must be signed by those entering it, bethelites, cos, and so on.

  the reason given for the whole thing has usually been for tax purposes, that by signing this document full-timers become exempt from taxation by belonging to this special group.

  basically then, end of story.. however, there is a clause in said document stating that any money made by the full-time worker beyond the allowance given by the society has to be turned over to the society.

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  I know of more than a few Bethelites that actually run businesses and pay employees while there. They rationalize that as long as it doesn't interfere with their duties it's okay. That's why "G-jobbing" has always been looked at with a wink and a nod. The whole vow of poverty thing is a joke!
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  Beth Shan - Rutherford's House of Security - IMAGES

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought i would supplement this thread with some new images of beth shan.. location:.

  [url=http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/midcentmod/media/site%20plan%20beth%20shan.jpg.html][img]http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m562/midcentmod/site%20plan%20beth%20shan.jpg[/img][/url].

  1939, during construction:.

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  Rutherford knew from personal experience that religion was indeed a racket. Sheesh, what a house! I'd rather live there than in a once was a chemical dumpsite/Warwick.
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  Brooklyn Brothers Signworks... WUT?

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the ad for this site came up here on jwn.

  http://www.brooklynsignworks.com/jw/?gclid=cp7ppbzr_tacfy-baqodwocm1a.

  i was not aware that these cart signs were being made and sold by essentially a private company or proprietorship.

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  Money changers at the temple? Blecchhhh!
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  You Have Been Looking Forward to This for a Long TIme - October 2nd 1914

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  picture yourself as a member of the brooklyn bethel family on friday morning, october 2, 1914. you are seated at your usual place at the breakfast table, awaiting the arrival of brother c. t. russell.

  suddenly the door to the dining room opens and brother russell appears.

  he pauses for a moment, as is his custom, and greets the bethel family with a cheery “good morning, all.” but then, instead of immediately taking his place at the head of the table, he claps his hands and makes a thrilling announcement: “the gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day!” you can hardly contain your joy—you have been looking forward to this moment for a long time!

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  In 1914 my great grandmother was 27 years old and a believer. She died 80 years later at 107 years of age.

  With her "help" now five generations of her descendants believe(d) that the "end" is near. (with the exception of me and my family) Even though we live in the era of "post-truth" where people will believe anything regardless of the facts, it's hard to describe the belief system of the JW's as anything but fantasy.

  Nice post.
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  Greetings and would like some advice about a potentially fun idea

  by towerwatcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello fellow apostates!

  my first post and a long time lurker here.

  i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".

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  Pointing out the obvious....Who would wear these? Not a big money maker IMHO. Not even enough to raise the ire of the WT's legal beagles. Sorry if I've let the air out of the baloon.
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  Why Finding the One True Religion is Impossible

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws like to think they have found the one true religion.

  but like so many other religious people, it's usually the religion they were born into, the only religion they know because it's the first one they found or, at the most, one of two or three (typically the second one after they left their first / born-in faith).. the trouble is, there simply isn't enough time to explore and investigate each and everyone of the many thousands of belief systems, religions and sects around the world.. think of it this way: which is the best neighbourhood to live in where you would be most happy and most successful?

  not just in the city or even the country you are in, but the entire world.. how would you ever know?

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  I strongly disagree...God is not a twat. He's a dick!