that's exactly what the gb/wt-"loyalists" say😝
the jwborg poison numbed their thinking ability
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Jesus ate and talked with "known apostates"
by FragrantAddendum inwt nwt bible says in their study note that satan entered into judas iscariot on nisan 12. which means jesus ate with, interacted with, prayed with, and washed the feet of .
a "known apostate" (bible says jesus knew the one betraying him from the beginning of when judas started to go bad).
there is no "scriptural basis" for wt to say "shun apostates".
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Who is this Guy?
by Slidin Fast inthe ra is underway and there is a common thread through the first day.
they have a "presenter" who comes across as an educated historian handling early bible fragments and translations as if he knows what he's doing.
the impression given is that he is an unassailable font of all knowledge, with his rich scottish accent he prints himself as across as professor gravitas.. i find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority.
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shit just happens
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Watchtower August leak: details from reddit user
by ukpimo infrom reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
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wt cut and pastes scriptures and reorganizes them in an attempt to shore up unscriptural and antichrist wt doctrines
the whole 2 thess 3 "mark and avoid" thing means to mark and avoid people like the gb and the wt hierarchy leaders
it says able-bodied ones who want to be like benefactors and meddle around telling people what to do
not working secularly but living off "voluntary donations"
those are the dudes who are supposed to be avoided
the congregation is told to not let such ones teach the congregation
so by 2 thess chapter 3 all those taking the "special vow of poverty" for "special full time servants" should be avoided
they should be shamed so they turn around, according to those verses
they shouldn't be put on the platform
they shouldn't be clapped for
they shouldn't be given any money/housing/etc by congregations
and they definitely shouldn't be considered "qualified to teach"
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2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!
by Atlantis init was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
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So it's more decoding of the secret code. Elders don't mark people any more (probably because doing that leaves a trail leading to Bethel, is against various privacy laws and could lead to lawsuits).
WT is at its heart a lover of control and is not going to relax that control in any meaningful manner. So the new "arrangement" is to have the R&F do the marking. How exactly do they decide to do that? Is there a congregational meeting where the congregation meets to discuss the matter as set out in Matthew 18?
I'm hazarding a guess that the answer is no. That the elders still decide on marking and somehow communicate their will in a way that doesn't leave a paper trail that is usable in court.
Try to pretend that marking happens spontaneously at the congregation level and has nothing to do with the GB, or their servants, the elders. 🙄😑
The good old boys club, their wives, the gossip mill, the cliques, and the elite have always marked people.
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2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!
by Atlantis init was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
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wt just keeps whitewashing the outside of the cup
the inside is full of every kind of nastiness
the "judicial" committees were never about "justice" anyway
more like injustice
the whole wt hierarchy arrangement should be illegal
since it runs interference with the governments
(telling people to report to bethel before the secular authorities, telling them not to cooperate, etc)
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2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!
by Atlantis init was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
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well, this article is a bunch of 💩💩💩
2 thessalonians 3 is all about marking and avoiding people able-bodied dudes who take "special vows of poverty" and live off donations instead of working secularly to support their own ministry
the circuit overseers and the bethelites and the governing body are the ones to be marked and avoided
it says they "meddle with what they ought not" and don't work to support their own ministry
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2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!
by Atlantis init was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
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leopold - I love that one!
bugs bunny just walks up and breaks the baton😂
thanks atlantis😁
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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...
by FragrantAddendum inso according to bible.
elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.
jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.
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in the greek it says
the time was around the time of the sabbath
so people weren't hanging out by graves
the women waited until the sabbath was over to attempt to add spices to the body of christ
but the army officer saw what happened
that's why he and the guys with him were afraid
it was fear of god
they realized this event was a miracle
just like when peter had fear of god (a good kind of fear - more like amazement) when the big catch of fish thing happened
the army officer said "truly this was god's son"
not just because of an earthquake or sun going dark
but because of the people who were raised from the dead
in john's gospel he said there were lots of things that never got written down
because jesus did so many many miracles
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Jesus ate and talked with "known apostates"
by FragrantAddendum inwt nwt bible says in their study note that satan entered into judas iscariot on nisan 12. which means jesus ate with, interacted with, prayed with, and washed the feet of .
a "known apostate" (bible says jesus knew the one betraying him from the beginning of when judas started to go bad).
there is no "scriptural basis" for wt to say "shun apostates".
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wt nwt bible says in their study note that satan entered into judas iscariot on nisan 12
which means jesus ate with, interacted with, prayed with, and washed the feet of
a "known apostate" (bible says jesus knew the one betraying him from the beginning of when judas started to go bad)
there is no "scriptural basis" for wt to say "shun apostates"
judas iscariot was the worst kind of "apostate"
jesus didn't shun apostates
(he just didn't eat the memorial with them)
the wt gb and their hierarchy are the worst apostates
i wouldn't eat memorial with wt even if you paid me 100 billion dollars😝
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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...
by FragrantAddendum inso according to bible.
elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.
jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.
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Nowhere in the Biblical text, and nowhere in the Fathers do we read of a resurrection of these "saints" being "flesh and blood" and that these were seen as you state.
they weren't "saints" as in "anointed" but they were holy ones, faithful jews
it's right there