Posts by deegee

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Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

by sinboi in

have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

deegee

Sinboi,

Just so that I understand where you are coming from - What was your reason for disassociating, was it so that you could "sin"?

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What really should be the role of Women in the congregations?

by Old Navy in

the presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.

i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?

aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.

deegee

THE BIBLE IS CONTRADICTORY.

GOD INSPIRED THE BIBLE WRITERS TO CONTRADICT EACH OTHER (2 Timothy 3:16).

Can women be church leaders?

YES THEY CAN:

Judges 4:4:

"And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time."

Acts 18:26:

Priscilla was a servant of the church.

"And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto [them], and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly."

Romans 16:1:

Phoebe was a deaconess.

"I commend unto you Phoebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea":

(" I commend you to our sister Phoebe, a deaconess of the church." - The Revised Standard Version)

Romans 16:7:

Junia was an apostle.

"Junia.......of note among the apostles"

****"Junia" (Romans 16:7) Some translators were so upset at the idea of a woman apostle that they replaced "Junia" with "Junias." The problem with this is that although "Junia" was a common woman's name at that time, there is no evidence for "Junias" as a man's name. Bart D. Ehrman, Misquoting Jesus (2005), p.185

NO THEY CAN'T:

They cannot speak, teach, or have authority over men.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

1 Timothy 2:11-12:

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

PAUL CONTRADICTED HIMSELF - Romans 16:1,7 versus 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 & 1 Timothy 2:11-12.

No wonder why there are approximately 47,000 Christian denominations with different beliefs as of 2017 according to the Center for the study of Global Christianity.

( http://www.gordonconwell.edu/ockenga/research/documents/StatusofGlobalChristianity2017.pdf )

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The "circle" of the earth

by stillin in

a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.

this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.

from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.

deegee

In the book of Joshua, it says the sun stood still?------UnshackleTheChains

Are there any records outside the Bible about this? No one else noticed such a phenomenal occurrence?

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In the name of the...

by btlc in

when i was a kid, i was occasionaly attend to baptism at conventions, and i remember that brothers who immerses candidates in the water, said: "right hand to nose, left hand to right hand, and i baptise you in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, amen".

i remeber that same mantra at my baptism too, back in the eighties.

but, some years ago, i was asked to help to move some props around baptism pool, so i attend to baptism after so many years - there was no "in the name of the..." part.

deegee

btlc,

I'm just realizing that there is a problem with the link I provided above so I have re-posted it here (the colons at the end of the link above results in an error):

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php

This website provides Watchtower quotes which show the changes that took place over time regarding baptizing in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit.

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In the name of the...

by btlc in

when i was a kid, i was occasionaly attend to baptism at conventions, and i remember that brothers who immerses candidates in the water, said: "right hand to nose, left hand to right hand, and i baptise you in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, amen".

i remeber that same mantra at my baptism too, back in the eighties.

but, some years ago, i was asked to help to move some props around baptism pool, so i attend to baptism after so many years - there was no "in the name of the..." part.

deegee

See https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php:

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The "circle" of the earth

by stillin in

a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.

this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.

from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.

deegee

A circle is flat. It has 2 dimensions NOT 3 dimensions:

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The "circle" of the earth

by stillin in

a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.

this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.

from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.

deegee

Good one stillin.

Indeed, a circle is flat just like a square or rectangle. It is 2 dimensional NOT 3 dimensional.

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Why would Jehovah God write the Ten Commandments on two tablets of stone ,in the first place ?

by smiddy3 in

i mean to say he is the creator of the universe isn`t he ?

so why would he use such a method that is subject to crumbling over time ?.

i remember a jw talk/mag.

deegee

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xnZlJMl4J8

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Why would Jehovah God write the Ten Commandments on two tablets of stone ,in the first place ?

by smiddy3 in

i mean to say he is the creator of the universe isn`t he ?

so why would he use such a method that is subject to crumbling over time ?.

i remember a jw talk/mag.

deegee

How the #$%^ did Moses climb a freakin’ MOUNTAIN in nothing but a robe & sandals? AND how the #$%^ did he climb back down carrying 2 big stones???

Ask any mountaineer today, even equipped with the best gear technology can provide, to climb a mountain, pick up 2 big rocks, & climb back down, & they’ll tell you to get stuffed.
Just sayin’

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Why would Jehovah God write the Ten Commandments on two tablets of stone ,in the first place ?

by smiddy3 in

i mean to say he is the creator of the universe isn`t he ?

so why would he use such a method that is subject to crumbling over time ?.

i remember a jw talk/mag.

deegee

Moses comes back down the mountain with the tablets in his arms. He bellows out to the Hebrews, “Do not murder. Do not steal. Respect your parents.” The Hebrews reply, “You went all the way up a @#$%& mountain to tell us THAT???!!! What an a**hole!”