What kind of man?
Middle eastern, probably an Arab.
Quick enough?
philo
Posts by philo
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12Real quick... what kind of 'man', Adam...
by AGuest inmay you all have peace (and i will try to keep this brief - yeah, right!).
when using and thinking of the word 'man', most people think that it only applies to humans, physical people.
for it is only flesh with spiritual blood... holy spirit... and not 'earthly' blood, red hemoglobin... that can enter into the kingdom.
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door-to-door records
by philo ini'm trying to get a picture of how d-d records are used.
particularly, with regard to household security, are 'persistent nhs' kept in the maps in your area?.
i used to file the cong maps, and we kept old d-d records back to target these persistents at unusual times.
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philo
I really need feedback on this folks. Please. It's not just curiosity.
Thanks
Philo
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door-to-door records
by philo ini'm trying to get a picture of how d-d records are used.
particularly, with regard to household security, are 'persistent nhs' kept in the maps in your area?.
i used to file the cong maps, and we kept old d-d records back to target these persistents at unusual times.
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philo
Shame on you Joelbear, that was ... very nearly ... well, I suppose, Christian of you. Yuk!
Thanks for the information
philo
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Who Will Cry For the Babies?
by Farkel inhere's something i found on kent's site just now.
i wrote it december last.
i didn't know that he purloined it but then again, he purloins lots of stuff, and furthermore i don't save most of what i write.
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philo
Farkel, that was plastered with your copyright to anyone who's read you.
Any one point you made should be enough for a conscientious JW to revile in horror. Oh well.
A little intelligent examination of their final-solution doctrine really illuminates the degree of thought suppression/dependence necessary among Jehovah's Witnesses. Without that, it would be impossible for them to pitch this stuff from door-door. And yet that is what we all did.
(1) Did we accept it first? Or (2) did we, for some other reason, desire to taut such crap first, and came to believe our own lies later? Mostly it was option (2), in my case.
Was it, "sooner murder an infant in its cot than harbour unacted desires"? (WT:pp666 2002)
I had this discussion with Mormons, a few weeks back, nailed them to the kitchen table, and tickled until they said, "not just Mormons will survive". So of course I asked, "why should I want to be Moronised?" Their answer? (its too good to blurt out, you'll have to wait for it). The Elder, a gangly, big footed boy, obviously going through major physiological changes, called Elder Walsen (wouldn't give his first name), and the other Elder XXX in training (about two years younger) they looked at each other to decide who would field this one. "Well", hand on Book of M, "we believe there are certain exceptional individuals, like Mother Theresa, who will survive even though they aren't Mormons"
"I'm exceptional, thank God for that," says me, "I thought I didn't have a chance!" tollerant smiles from the lads, "So glad I don't have to be a Mormon. And anyway, at thirty-one I'm obviously too old to be an Elder!" They actually laughed at that one. Humanity will out.
philo
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door-to-door records
by philo ini'm trying to get a picture of how d-d records are used.
particularly, with regard to household security, are 'persistent nhs' kept in the maps in your area?.
i used to file the cong maps, and we kept old d-d records back to target these persistents at unusual times.
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philo
I'm trying to get a picture of how d-d records are used. Particularly, with regard to household security, are 'persistent NHs' kept in the maps in your area?
I used to file the cong maps, and we kept old d-d records back to target these persistents at unusual times. Is this eccentric or the norm?
Any impressions, or information gratefully accepted.
philo
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MORE ON WHY THE PRESENT SYSTEM IS DOOMED!
by You Know inreality is a hard thing to keep at bay.
yet, many apparently prefer to live in a make-believe world, and so they readily embrace delusions for their own emotional comfort.
anything that seems to threaten the security of their fantasyland is dismissed, ignored, or ridiculed.
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:You're just whistl'n in the dark there boys. / You Know
On cue, you've confirmed the main part of my post, that you rely on us 'apostates' to support what you believe. Admittedly, you failed to supply the pretty tale I had hoped for, but there's always tomorrow, isn't there? There's always another day.
philo (violinist class)
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MORE ON WHY THE PRESENT SYSTEM IS DOOMED!
by You Know inreality is a hard thing to keep at bay.
yet, many apparently prefer to live in a make-believe world, and so they readily embrace delusions for their own emotional comfort.
anything that seems to threaten the security of their fantasyland is dismissed, ignored, or ridiculed.
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philo
YK,
You would be stuck without apostates, wouldn't you? I refer also to your comment to AlanF on another similar thread in which you said something like:
Your (Alan's) irrational apostate opposition to facts is prophetic proof of my beliefs.
Although I usually hesitate, out of a residual JW lowliness, to call myself an apostate, I am always flattered to be honoured with that title, even by you. If I force myself to be honest, of course I am an only an apostate if JWs are THE 'true' Christians. Conversely, you are only a 'true' Christian if people of my 'class' are THE 'true' apostates. So round and round it goes.
Without the 'enemies', which you cultivate and pamper so lovingly, you would struggle to see yourself as anything but a rather goofy Christian with some particularly nasty beliefs (I think you know the ones I mean).
However you approach answering this, it should make a pretty story. And when it's boiled down, stories are all you have to offer. Heck, we all enjoy a story! Interestingly, some of the more enduring, goofy, and nasty ones are actually children's stories. LOL/philo
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Classic Excuses: "We don't have the whole ...
by dedalus inpatio34's post got me thinking ... sooner or later as witnesses, we all face[d] a situation in which we became aware of some kind of judicial corruption -- someone reproved who shouldn't have been, someone harassed by elders, or worse, instances of violence and abuse that have been deliberately ignored and concealed.. my question for this thread is, what's the lamest excuse you've ever heard (or given) to justify the injustice in your hall?
the one that occurred to me was, "we don't have the whole story," as if there could possibly be a good reason for ruining an innocent's life.
my future father-in-law was deleted as an elder, for example, after accepting charity money raised for his deaf, blind, and mentally handicapped son.
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Dedalus,
So I was Just wondering if there were any other JW lines designed to excuse deliberate ignorance and passivity, perhaps some I haven't heard before.
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The car was quiet on the way home, stifling. She dare not say anything about what had happened at the meeting, it might make a bad situation worse. Was he also thinking how unjust the disfellowshipping was, or was he just sad. As a tissue is to a flu infection, she reached into that spiritual pocket in her handbag for a homily: "I suppose it's not what the elders decide that matters, its how we deal with the decision afterwards.""Oh, you mean with Brother... I mean with Tom?" - he was miles away. At the lights he squeezed her knee, "It could be a test for him…and for us", he said, and made a mental note to stop calling him Tom.
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Next day. "Uh?" said Brother Pioneer, mid-sandwich, "It very sad, but it's all dusted Barbara," firm eye contact, and still chewing, "leave it to Jehovah to sort out."
"If that's…"
"Holy spirit", he interrupted, "doesn't always decide what's right from the human view point, there's more at stake"
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Tom had fielded a volley of calls in the following week. At some point he realised, with a flicker of irony, that he still thought of most of them as 'weaker ones'. He had been victimised, they said, scapegoated, the CO should intervene, take them to court, splash it all over The Echo. Though warmed by these unguarded, untheocratic expressions of support, he had steadfastly stated his position. "As Job says, what Jehovah has given he can also take away: everything, privileges, work, health, children…anything."
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Do elders have Bible Studies?
by slipnslidemaster inin my experience, i have never seen an elder in the congregations that i was associated with bring (or have for that matter) a bible study to the kingdom hall.. now i think that i already know the reason for that, but it seems that the majority of the bible studies are done by the poor sister pioneers.. is this the case in the hall you went to?.
slipnslidemaster: doin' the humpty hump...just doin' the humpty hump...
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philo
Mulan,
Can I be your Internet toy boy?
philo
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Do elders have Bible Studies?
by slipnslidemaster inin my experience, i have never seen an elder in the congregations that i was associated with bring (or have for that matter) a bible study to the kingdom hall.. now i think that i already know the reason for that, but it seems that the majority of the bible studies are done by the poor sister pioneers.. is this the case in the hall you went to?.
slipnslidemaster: doin' the humpty hump...just doin' the humpty hump...
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philo
Patio34,
:I just read the story and it was very good. What we have to go through to extricate ourselves, huh?
You didn't hit on some of Mulan's racier writing, did you? (knowing leer)
:Thanks for sharing that!
I'll bet. ;)
Mulan, I'm a genuine fan, but I got ta get my kicks like anyone else.
Good on you Pat, Philo