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  Add a caption to this photo...............

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  THE 30 MM CANNON IS OFF CENTER.

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  How would you know if your spouse didn't love you anymore?

  by Preston in

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  how would you know?.

  - preston

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  If you or your mate feel a slow burning anger or are repulsed by the other, there is a real problem.

  If everytime you or your mate looks at the other, it creats a feeling of disgust or frustration there is a real problem.

  However is the problem caused by you or is it caused by your mate. This needs to be determined. Where is the anger or the disgust or the unhappyness. Is it one of you or both?

  Often times a person can have anger due to a situation that has nothing to do what so ever with your mate.

  You or your mate can be angry for something from several directions or from the past that has nothing to do with today or your mate.

  It is called misdirected anger. For example, it is not uncomon for us to be very angry with our parents and how we were raised and direct that anger to the one closest to us. or many other scenarios.

  We fear losing our parents and the family and send our anger off in another direction.

  For some reason it is most often redirected to our mate or someone we are close to or to our place of employment, or heaven forbid, we stuff it and become suicidal.

  I would recomend seeing a counselor and determining what is happening instead of guessing or doing nothing.

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  Science: Bible's Red Sea Miracle Is Real?

  by aniron in

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  science: bible's red sea miracle is real?

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  Yeah right?

  600000 grumpy tired people with kids and old folks cross a small reef of land in 4 hours??? In a 67 mph wind???

  Then the Egyptian army is stupid enough to cross this reef with a 67 mph wind that is all that holds the water back?

  What a crock.

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  social retard

  by MerryMagdalene in

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  i finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.

  it really is painful and scary for me.

  i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.

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  Try being socially active with this combination of things.

  Scandinavian people are known to have introverted personalities. Not everyone of course, but it does seem to be more than found in other nationalities

  Well guess what? I am of Norwegian descent and all of my family are introverted personalities.

  Add the wbts teachings and demands and lack of social activity outside of the cult and we can hardly speak to a stranger.

  I have tried and tried to overcome this. While it has gotten better for me over the years, it is still there.

  I just accept it and live with it. It doesn't seem that big a deal as it used to.

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  Small town USA..............

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  who of you on the jwd grew up in a small town?

  take us back to one small event in your childhood that you remember.......this may just be a tactile sensation, like the smell of hay or pines or may be something as simple as the feeling of hot, dry dust underfoot........

  for me, i remember the hardness of the soil in upstate new york.

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  My earliest memories are from around 5 / 7 yrs. old in Grants Pass Ore.

  Standing on the corner watching hundreds of soldiers marching down the main street / road in ww 2.

  Taking my wooden wagon to the corner black smith "yeah still working" and watch him fix it with red hot metal rod to drill through the wood.

  Crying and confused when they arrested my only older brother for not taking a job in the local hospital to substitute being in the army. He was 19.

  Fishing with my dad on the Rogue river.

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  JWD - Five years old and still going strong !

  by Simon in

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  five years sure goes by fast .... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/46/1.ashx.

  we're busy as ever and there are lots of plans for the future.

  there will be some changes in the coming week or so which i will announce later.. in the meantime, happy birthday to us

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  HAPPY JWD and thanks to Simon your wife and family and all the forum assistants and others that keep this forum going smoothly.

  I don't always like your opinions but I sure do like and appreciate your forum.

  Keeping this thing going has to be a lot of work.

  thank you thank you

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  My Prediction: If You Don't want To Be A Witness----You've Disassociated

  by minimus in

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  eventually, i believe that if an inactive person refuses to talk to elders, stops all meetings and service and might create any possible problem to the local congregation, that they might be loopholed into showing themselves as having "disassociating" themselves.

  it would be an easy way to get rid of deadweights that can cause more harm than good in the congregation.

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  I agree with Siddhash'''

  In that I think their desire for loyalty transforms into control of the mass and the two intermix in the minds of the wbts leaders.

  What would feel better for a cult leader? Loyalty or control?

  If you have loyalty you have control and if you have control, it is of the loyal ones.

  Clean the hive as bees do. Any bee that does not fit the needs of the hive are forced out without any compassion.

  The result?? The organization may decrees in size dramaticlly, to only those who can be controlled due to their foolish loyalty.

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  Disfellowshipping in absentia policy from "Organized to do Jehovah's Will"

  by truthseeker in

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  this is the new disfellowshipping policy from the "organized to do jehovah's will" book.

  this book is now the replacement for the old "organized to accomplish our ministry" book, released in 1983. .

  chapter 14: maintaining the peace and cleaness of the congregation .

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  I think that the only change they have made recently, Is the "Mister Outoftheorg" ( Is no longer one of Jehovah's Witness'es.) Which does not indicate that any particular action was taken against the now ex member.

  I think this may give them some advantage in a court of law. Where they used to use terms such as

  ( for conduct unbecoming a christian) or (some one has been disfellowshipped) which indicates that action was taken against that person. In other words ( they were found unworthy of associating with us)

  Lately it is all (lets cover our ass, legally) with the wbts.

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  Some Elders Know...

  by metatron in

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  i ran into an old elder buddy recently and we got talking.. to put it simply, i don't know how he does it!

  - that is, i don't know how he continues to be an elder when i consider.

  what he knows about.. he knows about the bulgarian compromise.

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  Well at a very basic, "I am not a psychiatrist" dissonance means this.

  You or I have a set of beliefs. These were learned at an early age or implanted at an older age.

  We KNOW that these beliefs are true and active and help direct our lives. We Know this with all our heart. It was taught or delivered to us by the most reliable people or even God.

  We are so sure that we will adhere to them even if it may cost our life.

  Or we may have not so deep a belief but still cherish them or the thought of them.

  HOWEVER in our daily every day lives, we experience things that contest these beliefs and in spite of it they turn out to be TRUE or helpful or loving or successful and they are coming from people we are supposed to detest.

  Or a date is given for this or that incident or medical beliefs, instead of giving us faith and comfort we find them doubtful, but we hold onto the belief.

  It is like a part of your brain telling you, this room is black and another telling you, it is white.

  There are several possible results. Mine was a constant low level anger that applied to everything.

  Another was a fear of and anger toward the religious cult I was in and their attitude and treatment.

  I hadn't reached the level at which I hated their beliefs= my beliefs yet.

  When it did reach this level I sought counseling and I needed it.

  dissonance-discord-disharmony confusion collision at a mental level

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  Intuition..

  by Country Girl in

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  i've been reading up on intuition (and that's not what you pay to go to college.. heheh).. i think that all creatures have some sort of mechanism in their bodies that alerts them to possible danger.

  i feel that this sense has somehow been desensitized in humans, because we perhaps do not depend on it for our very lives any more, in the case of survival.

  however, it probably is still there somewhere deep inside us at some very unconscious level.. whether one can tap into that intuitive energy on sheer will is an unknown for me.

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  I have always been aware of my "gut feelings" and react to them without much immediate thought.

  When I first started with the sheriffs office, the training dealt a lot with intuition and gut feelings.

  A lot of traffic stops are as much a gut feeling as it is due to some small violation.

  A conversation with a driver through the open window can suddenly turn in to intense fear, with no visible cause for the officer.

  I recall one night where we "two of us in the car" came up behind a car that behaved "differently", no visible violations.

  We decided to do a "stop check" for a dui.

  My partner went to the left "drivers window" and I went to the right window. It was our custom to tap the car on the right rear, which usually causes the occupants to look to their right rear and gives the officer on the left a chance to look at things and approach without their attention.

  When I got to the right front window, I asked the passenger to roll the window down. She did. As the other officer was talking to the driver I looked at the passenger and felt that gut feeling I hated.

  She had a news paper on her lap and a magazine on top of that. For some reason I knew she had something under that magazine and didn't want us to know this.

  I reached in and grabbed that magazine with my left hand as my right went to my gun.

  Under that magazine was a fully loaded gun. Why did my right hand go for my gun? It could easily have been a small purse or a make up kit with lipstick etc.

  In retrospect, I believe it was her and his overall actions that triggered that small part of our brain that screams "fight or flight".

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