Posts by outoftheorg

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My Husband

by mrsjones5 in

jw
friends

on the 12th of this month, around 9:30pm, i was getting ready to leave for work.

running around, putting on clothes, making sure i had everything ready and the kids were settled in bed.

my husband, shawn, was laying aross our bed, resting, he stood up and suddenlly put his hand to his chest.

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I had some strange pains to the left of my heart the other day. They scared me and then quit. My wife is now on chemo for terminal pancreatic cancer.

I guess it may be from all the added stress and my fears of loosing her. I will have a visit to the Dr in a few days to see what it may be and what to do.

For her first round of chemo, that is one application of chemo once a week for three weeks, we just got the bills. The chemo ( the chemical itself ) costs $8000.00 for 3 weeks and the total was $17000.00 .

Our insurance covers about 80%. They have now added a pill and this will be $2800.00 for thirty day treatment less 80% and we will have to pay the 20%.

She had to leave her job and her insurance will stop in March. She has gotten Social Security but is too young for the medical coverage. She is supposed to have passed the disability requirements for disability coverage. We don't yet know if that will pick up the medical costs.

We had bought some property about a year ago, not foreseeing what was to change our lives. Now we are in a panic trying to sell them off to get rid of the monthly payments. We both have 401Ks but at this rate they will not last long.

Now my best friend has had a stroke and lost the use of his left arm and leg and does not look like he will recover.

I know life is hard at times and can really suck, but damn it all this really sucks..

For the first time in my life I feel useless and unable to control the outcome of this all. I think of just living one day at a time and I guess just taking things as they come. That is not really me. I just can't think of any way to at least control some, of what I see may come down the road at us.

Anyone got any Ideas ???

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

outoftheorg

Give it a rest Borus.

Your continuous self promoting efforts are getting old and a bit sad.

Not to mention boring posts that deserve ignoring.

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52

What were you disfellowshipped for?

by Kristofer in

i recently had a discussion with a witness friend (i'm a secret) and she claimed that witnesses only get disfellowshipped for being unrepentant for immoral acts.

i am curious to know from those who have been disfellowshipped, what was it for?

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My now ex wife was going through some difficult times. Due to molestations by her brother an uncle and her mothers boy friends, which she had sleeping in her daughters bed room. A sure set up to have her daughters "my ex wife" molested.

After 23 years of marriage all this comes out and my now ex wife was suicidal. In the process she sought out relationships with these family members and directed her anger to me.

"At least this is how the psychiatrist explained it all to me".

To this day I am not certainly sure what was going on in her mind and her reasoning. Anyway the elders inserted themselves into this mess and made things much worse.

One morning my ex wife tried to punish me by saying "this is what the gb says" as a way to force me to agree with her.

My reply was "fuck the gb", She left at that moment and and headed for two of the elders that did not like me at all, as I had created a problem by not accepting the elders dismissing of my daughters molestation by an uncle.

One of the elders purposly insulted me in front of others. SO I was heading his way with the idea in mind of " he needs the shit kicked out of him" and I told them all so.

My son grabs me and stops the effort to hurt this guy.

SO I was df'd for "FITS OF RAGE" and for once they were right.

Yeah I know you all want to know, yes we did divorce. This turned out to be one of the best things that has happened in my life.

I am free and away from the whole rotten mess.

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To Those Who Still Go To Meetings, Do You Sense Anything Different?

by minimus in

jw
friends

are people excited by anything in the organization?

are they tired?

mostly missing?

outoftheorg

Yeah Stilla. I guess I wasn't alone in having those feelings.

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64

To Those Who Still Go To Meetings, Do You Sense Anything Different?

by minimus in

jw
friends

are people excited by anything in the organization?

are they tired?

mostly missing?

outoftheorg

When I look back at the time where I started to loose faith, around 1978 and when things all came to a head, around 1992 I keep thinking of the word exhausted.

I was slowly becoming more and more exhausted until I reached the point where I no longer gave a shit about Pleasing any one. Wife, siblings, friends, elders, any one at all.

And trapped, knowing that I might lose my wife, siblings, friends.

I did, I lost them all. One of the best things in my life reallly. It took some time to recognize this but it is truly one of the best things in my life.

I think that many people are having the same feelings and may not yet know why.

Sad really sad situation for millions of people.

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anyone have/had this problem?

by lonelysam in

jw
friends

im nearly 19, im right in the middle of leaving the borg, and i dont really know how to say this, (this is gunna sound stupid) but.. i havnt had a girlfriend for over 3 years, am still a virgin, and feel as if im never going to find the right girl for me, because i still beleive in sex after mariage.

not to mention i dont know where i stand on the whole bible thing.

now i know 19 is very young to be looking for a sort of 'serious' relationship, but im starting to feel a bit lonely, anyone have simalar problems after you left?

outoftheorg

I think you have received some good advice here. If you want to remain a virgin until you marry, I commend you for your good moral stand.

However I think that you should understand, that the best of intentions and moral stand sometimes are forgotten. At times when the harmon's start to surge during close physical contact, "petting".

Then a sexual encounter takes place in spite of your good intentions.

Then what do you do??

Beat the hell out of yourself ? Degrade yourself and believe that you are a terrible, weak, no good fornicator, that God hates?

NO you are not!! You are just another young man trying to make his way in life and in your mind you made a mistake. That is all, you made a mistake. Who of us have not made a mistake like this or something similar??

God will not hate you for this and the only one you ( may ) need to apologize to is your female friend.

She may not even require an apology.

HOWEVER if a child is the result, be a man and accept your responsibilities.

From what I read in your post you sound like a good reliable honest young man. You will do just fine.

Keep your moral standards intact and forgive yourself for errors and LEARN from them.

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plz help me

by luvluvluv in

outoftheorg

You might also make a note in your paper, that they are a very hatefull demanding dangerous cult.

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46

california

by lola28 in

jw
friends

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i was just wondering how many here are from california, i noticed several and just wanted to see how many of us there are.. .

lola

outoftheorg

San Diego and in La Cresta? I think it was. In the hills out of El Cajon.

Moved to Idaho in 1972

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138

Uses of The 4th Dimension (Einstein was wrong!)

by use4d in

since i discovered the 4th dimension, one of the conclusions i have reached is, the 4th dimension is an infinite access to the truth.

throughout this website, i use the term "i wish" - it is really a way to voice a person's desire - and from the work i have done - it really works.

from the saying: "ask and you shall receive", i have understood that any human being can make an infinity of "wishes" and receive the truth (the correct answer) to every question they may have, in the form of a dream - that same night.

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Ya know, I have done this "ask just before you go to sleep thing" and have gotten results.

Not too long ago I asked "who is my soul mate" and got quick results.

My wife beat the crap out of me right in our bed. So I now know who my soul mate is for sure.

The wbts must be right. Don't use the internet.

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Why do ex-JWs try so hard to uncover WTS dirt?

by Lady Lee in

far too many times i have heard the accusation that all x-jws want to do is tear down the wts.

we scrounge around digging up every piece of information that we can that will put the wts in a bad light.

"they" being those who seek to defend the wts and forget the past because ... well it is the past and there is so much "new light".

outoftheorg

Actually no one has to try SO HARD.

It is sort of like standing at the face of a sandy loose cliff face.

You poke at it with your shovel and it starts to fall loose.

You dig in deeper and it begins to cascade loose and fall down.

It gets to the point where you are covered with the many false teachings and

unchristian actions that it is not possible to keep this information hidden from yourself.

Then one sees the need to reveal the hidden to friends and even to those who see us as evil

persons. Yes we feel strongly enough about helping those who are still captives to the cult that we

will take the time and effort to help those who scorn us. We then keep up the effort to REALLY help

those that attack us with the fury that only a deceived frightened jw seems capeable of.

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