Hi J 10
Since you keep posting here, can I ask you a question?
DO YOU LIKE THE ATTENTION YOU GET FROM FELLOW POSTERS?
Outoftheorg
attention can be good or bad.
depends the way you look at it.
how much attention do you get for being a member of this board?
Hi J 10
Since you keep posting here, can I ask you a question?
DO YOU LIKE THE ATTENTION YOU GET FROM FELLOW POSTERS?
Outoftheorg
robert king has a new anti-org book out, so it looks like he is the new seer to the world from what he says.
isn't this the "you know" that used to plague the boards?
here we go with the watchtower is right but all the leaders are wrong, so i reluctantly have to write this book so all will know that i am a prophet!
They should not have dissed this wild man. They should have hired him to replace the deceased
!!!!!!! FRED FRANZ !!!!!
He could be the new oracle. I can see from his rant on this new book, that he has the knack of scaring
the hell out of the rank and file.
His mental state should fit right in with the rest of the GB. BIG MISTAKE!
Outoftheorg
there is overwhelming evidence that the spiritual founder of the wts, c.t.
russell, was a prominent free mason in the pittsburgh community.
he went so far as to declare: "i am a free mason" in several of his lectures.
Sygnus
C T Russel also sold his followers and others his MIRACLE WHEAT with promises of much more wheat per acre than any other seeds available at that time.
He was lying about this and was found guilty in a court of law.
Doesn't seem too loving or honest to me. The two url's you asked SWALKER to read, proudly announced IN HIS OWN WORDS. He was on trial denying the actions taken against him. He wasn't about to tell the truth. Using his own words to defend him is a pretty weak argument.
Outoftheorg
there is overwhelming evidence that the spiritual founder of the wts, c.t.
russell, was a prominent free mason in the pittsburgh community.
he went so far as to declare: "i am a free mason" in several of his lectures.
I was having trouble trying to match "bible crazed and honest".
That should have driven him insane.
But then I read KID A's post and now I need only tell you to read it.
He about said it all.
Outoftheorg
there is overwhelming evidence that the spiritual founder of the wts, c.t.
russell, was a prominent free mason in the pittsburgh community.
he went so far as to declare: "i am a free mason" in several of his lectures.
When it comes down to "what he said" about not being a mason, or using his references of how the Masons behaved and using this as a point to get his beliefs across, I wouldn't bet a dime on Russels honesty.
To me the actions speak much more loudly than this loco's preachings.
To me his use of Masonic icons and babbling on about the pyramids and a pyramid on his grave tells me he was one or, he worshiped their teachings.
Outoftheorg
little is known about special pioneers, other than their role.
how many hours are expected of them?
are they given preferential treatment?
When ever the phrase "SPECIAL PIONEER" is spoken, the following memory pops up.
In the early 1980's my niece, who always felt she was special, found a mate who also felt he was special.
For me they always seemed more self righteous and insulting than special.
They were living in Idaho and were assigned to some place in the south east of the U S.
I was living in Wyoming at the time and they wanted to stop over and sleep in my house as they passed through.
Being the kind loving and caring person that I am, I said " sure come on " .
My wife cooks up this really nice meal for us all and they show up around 7 pm as we had all agreed to.
My niece's " special pioneer husband " picks up the dish of food and smells it thoroughly.
Frowns and sets the dish back down on the table and says "no thanks " and they mutter something and head of for the bed room. Telling us over their shoulder that ' we need to get some sleep ".
After I calm the wife down and myself, we decide well we can catch up on old times and chat with them in the morning.
We get up at about 5:30 am and realize that they have already left with out a word or a note of thanks
So much for the not so SPECIAL pioneers.
Outoftheorg
how cruel can these people be??.
1) my dad informs me this spring that my sister is getting married.. 2) i am of course not informed of the actual date incase i decide to show up.
3) i am sent a wedding invitation after the wedding has taken place along with a little letter from mom and dad.. 4) i get an e-mail from my mom with the link to the website of wedding photos and gushing dub comments.... "what a lovely family" blah blah blah.
Krystal I know how you feel. Give it time and you get used to it and move on in your life. Accept their hateful acts without any questions. They are who they are and may or may not, one of these days change, so just allow them to drift away.
After I was df'd for [having fits of rage} "telling the elders they needed the shite kicked out of them"
My kind and loving sister "that refused to speak to me" subscribed a years worth of watchtowers and had them sent to me.
I marked them (return to sender the wbts) with a sticky note inside "don't send me any more of this shite".
That stopped the flow of magazines and I never again heard a word from my sisters "now dead" and my brother.
It took a while and I made new friends and family and the memories of hurt drifted away.
Their decisions are theirs so let them just be the confused missled somewhat demented people they are.
The cult has control over them and caused this insanity, so for now at least, they are incapable of rational reasonable behavior.
You have a life to live and others to love and care for, so add a few friends and you have more than a lot of people do.
Outoftheorg
Best wshes to you and yours.
i lost control of my 1976 buick and smashed into a guardrail.
the car is totalled, with my arms and hands as they are i shouldn't have been driving anyway.
had head injuries... yeah just add to my existing head probelms.
Damn it, sometimes it seems like one thing after another hits a guy .
Hang in there, these things seem to come and go and then life gets better.
Don't ever give up, just keep on living and this too will become just a memory.
Keep looking forward and leave the past in the past, (at best life is difficult) and it takes some work to keep going.
This too will pass Outoftheorg
mike davis, firefighter.
bank one forest park (3:05 p.m.): it may be less than a foot square, but mike davis and fellow forest park firefighter julie stanley work the smoldering patch of mulch as if it could turn into a full-fledged fire.
they till soil around the tree and douse it with water until the smoke stops.. it's a non-emergency response for engine 42. with no sirens or flashing lights, it's excruciatingly routine.
The WBTS seriously frowns on anyone being employed in any position of authority with any public department in a city or county or state and especially federal.
Unless they are in some way helpful for the society.
This is especially so if it involves the police or fire dept' since both depts' work together on a lot of situations.
These two groups are somewhat like a family in their close caring for each other as individuals and their knowledge of what goes on in some religions and cults. Also the ymca and the boy scouts.
Be in their midst for a while and you stand a good chance of learning what goes on in these cults etc.
Outoftheorg
for those not up-to-date on my situation ... .
i was disfellowshipped and i posted about it here.. i wrote an appeal letter, and wrote about it here.
so, i just got home from a weeks vacation, i was home for 3 hours.
Me thinks the wbts legal dept, may already be facing some legal actions on the df'n along with the pedophile issues.
This could cause some more pragmatic thinking on their part and advice to the the gov/bod.
Maybe we will see some more "new light" ?? on both of these subjects.
Outoftheorg